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Alexei Navalny has died in prison

74 points by awb 3y ago

smt88 3y ago
"Alexei Navalny was tortured and assassinated by the dictator he was resisting." I don't think AP should change the headline, but it's somehow still galling to read "has died" as though it wasn't a political assassination.
- sdwr 3y ago
  Reads like more of a death of neglect than "tortured and killed". Sure, the whole thing is a sham and the intent was for him to die in prison, but it sounds like they treated him in a relatively respectful + dignified way.
- Dig1t 3y ago
  This is a very common tactic in journalism nowadays, you can often tell the bias of the article by whether they say "died after X encounter" vs "killed by X". Not saying that this particular instance has a strong bias, but in general it's interesting once you start noticing it.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    This is constant. If the author agrees with something someone says, they'll say that the person "pointed out" something. If not, it's "claimed".
    - robocat 3y ago
      Russell or emotive conjugation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_conjugation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_conjugation It would be nice to have a better word for this type of manipulation. We all do it constantly! My risk management is your gambling.
asdefghyk 3y ago
How unusual. NOT
r721 3y ago
Active discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631
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TacticalCoder 3y ago
So it's no unlike Epstein? (by that I mean there's doubt as to whether the death was natural or not)
- lolc 3y ago
  I haven't yet seen the version where Epstein died of natural causes! Did I miss a good laugh?
nujabe 3y ago
And so has Gonzala Lira.
ChrisArchitect 3y ago
[dupe] More discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631
sschueller 3y ago
I hope when Assange dies in prison we will have the same outrage in the media as today.
- hulitu 3y ago
  > I hope when Assange dies in prison we will have the same outrage in the media as today. Yes. But not in the same media. /s Journalists are hard working people who have a rent to pay, want to go on vacation and maybe have a family to feed.
simonblack 3y ago
So ... was he 'Epstein'ed? Or was he 'Gonzalo Lira'd? Or maybe even 'Seth Rich'ed? Surely he wasn't 'Assange'd.
vagippona 3y ago
Honestly? The guy came out from a far-right party, in 2007 he said the muslim immigrants should be squashed like cockroaches. Fine that he stood against the Putin government, but as a person I don't give a damn he died

74 points by awb 3y ago

"Alexei Navalny was tortured and assassinated by the dictator he was resisting." I don't think AP should change the headline, but it's somehow still galling to read "has died" as though it wasn't a political assassination.

sdwr 3y ago
Reads like more of a death of neglect than "tortured and killed". Sure, the whole thing is a sham and the intent was for him to die in prison, but it sounds like they treated him in a relatively respectful + dignified way.
Dig1t 3y ago
This is a very common tactic in journalism nowadays, you can often tell the bias of the article by whether they say "died after X encounter" vs "killed by X". Not saying that this particular instance has a strong bias, but in general it's interesting once you start noticing it.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  This is constant. If the author agrees with something someone says, they'll say that the person "pointed out" something. If not, it's "claimed".
  - robocat 3y ago
    Russell or emotive conjugation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_conjugation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_conjugation It would be nice to have a better word for this type of manipulation. We all do it constantly! My risk management is your gambling.

asdefghyk 3y ago

How unusual. NOT

r721 3y ago

Active discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631

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TacticalCoder 3y ago

So it's no unlike Epstein? (by that I mean there's doubt as to whether the death was natural or not)

lolc 3y ago
I haven't yet seen the version where Epstein died of natural causes! Did I miss a good laugh?

nujabe 3y ago

And so has Gonzala Lira.

ChrisArchitect 3y ago

[dupe] More discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39395631

sschueller 3y ago

I hope when Assange dies in prison we will have the same outrage in the media as today.

hulitu 3y ago
> I hope when Assange dies in prison we will have the same outrage in the media as today. Yes. But not in the same media. /s Journalists are hard working people who have a rent to pay, want to go on vacation and maybe have a family to feed.

simonblack 3y ago

So ... was he 'Epstein'ed? Or was he 'Gonzalo Lira'd? Or maybe even 'Seth Rich'ed? Surely he wasn't 'Assange'd.

vagippona 3y ago

Honestly? The guy came out from a far-right party, in 2007 he said the muslim immigrants should be squashed like cockroaches. Fine that he stood against the Putin government, but as a person I don't give a damn he died