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Rest in peace. It's wild to me how everyone has a (very energetic) opinion about a conflict nowhere near their home, helmed by people they don't know, fought b

Rest in peace. It's wild to me how everyone has a (very energetic) opinion about a conflict nowhere near their home, helmed by people they don't know, fought by people they don't understand, over problems they don't understand. I wish we could return to when not every conflict between nations was a considered a global emergency.

secondary_op 3y ago
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avaika 3y ago
The war affects everyone. Some people die, some suffer because they are under shelling or occupation, some suffer cause their loved one die. But those outside war zone suffer as well. Due to broken food chains, crazy economic inflation and general political instability. For sure it's as bad as when you're dead because of the random shell hitting your home, but still. When a man with a nuclear button savagely kills his opponent just because he can, this creates instability inside the country. And increases chances, that once he dies (which eventually will happen), some radical guy might overtake the power and who knows what happens next. I understand that a lot of events in the world might have potential global effect, but only few of them might hit as bad.
- seanw444 3y ago
  I don't understand why people are so scared specifically about Putin's nukes. He's not the only murderous dictator with a big red button, but he's the only one I hear people worrying about. Xi + the CCP is just as much, if not more, of a threat. And due to the way things are going, they're testing the waters in cooperation and friendship.
  - awb 3y ago
    There have been decades of tension, proxy wars and explicit threats of mutual nuclear destruction between Russia and the West.
  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    For all of China's faults, the country seems less reliant on hard power for survival. Russia is a country with three tricks only: fossil fuels, nuclear weapons and destabilizing democracies. China is a manufacturing and technology powerhouse.
  - avaika 3y ago
    Unlike Xi, Putin and his propaganda machine has literally threatened to use the nuclear power if they have to. Multiple times. Yes, it is considered as a bluff. And most likely it is. However so was all the military "exercises" before the invasion to Ukraine in 2022. Only a few really believed it, unfortunately it actually happened.
unethical_ban 3y ago
You don't think the safety of Europe is important to the US?
awb 3y ago
I’m guessing that many people have a preferred ideology or a moral compass that encompasses all humans. Violence and questions of justice tend to ignite conversation.

secondary_op 3y ago

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avaika 3y ago

The war affects everyone. Some people die, some suffer because they are under shelling or occupation, some suffer cause their loved one die. But those outside war zone suffer as well. Due to broken food chains, crazy economic inflation and general political instability. For sure it's as bad as when you're dead because of the random shell hitting your home, but still. When a man with a nuclear button savagely kills his opponent just because he can, this creates instability inside the country. And increases chances, that once he dies (which eventually will happen), some radical guy might overtake the power and who knows what happens next. I understand that a lot of events in the world might have potential global effect, but only few of them might hit as bad.

seanw444 3y ago
I don't understand why people are so scared specifically about Putin's nukes. He's not the only murderous dictator with a big red button, but he's the only one I hear people worrying about. Xi + the CCP is just as much, if not more, of a threat. And due to the way things are going, they're testing the waters in cooperation and friendship.
- awb 3y ago
  There have been decades of tension, proxy wars and explicit threats of mutual nuclear destruction between Russia and the West.
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  For all of China's faults, the country seems less reliant on hard power for survival. Russia is a country with three tricks only: fossil fuels, nuclear weapons and destabilizing democracies. China is a manufacturing and technology powerhouse.
- avaika 3y ago
  Unlike Xi, Putin and his propaganda machine has literally threatened to use the nuclear power if they have to. Multiple times. Yes, it is considered as a bluff. And most likely it is. However so was all the military "exercises" before the invasion to Ukraine in 2022. Only a few really believed it, unfortunately it actually happened.

unethical_ban 3y ago

You don't think the safety of Europe is important to the US?

awb 3y ago

I’m guessing that many people have a preferred ideology or a moral compass that encompasses all humans. Violence and questions of justice tend to ignite conversation.