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The job he chose was to inspire people, and show them a way to protest from within the system (the strategic voting system he and his followers published).

secondary_op 3y ago
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- MrDresden 3y ago
  Let's wait and see what his legacy will be.
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  In America, when the two party system is criticized and people push for changes to the way we vote, we don't get put in prison or poisoned with nerve gas or radioactive tea.
  - docmars 3y ago
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    - unethical_ban 3y ago
      I literally have no idea what you're talking about. Could you explain who has been a victim of this? Please don't say the former president who has worked hard to delay trials.
      - docmars 3y ago
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        2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-trial-ruling.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-frau... > Trump Is Ordered to Pay $355 Million and Is Barred From New York Business :)
        docmars 3y ago
        > Trump will appeal this and probably win :)
        deleted 3y ago
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        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        What evidence are you basing that on?
        docmars 3y ago
        1. The outcomes are very clearly politically motivated. 2. The bank CEOs who testified agreed that there was no wrongdoing on Trump's part. The loans are paid. 3. There is no victim in the case. ("bUt thE StaTe..." [eyeroll]) 4. Kevin O'Leary condemns the ruling as baseless and corrupt. That's kind of a big deal. [https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1759639865174729101 https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/17596398651747291...] --- On a related note, look at the kinds of people who are going after Trump: 1. We have Fani Willis and her little boyfriend in Georgia using cash she pulled out of her campaign to evade accountability (that's a felony). 2. We have this little pr*ck filing lawsuits in every state to have Trump removed from their ballots, being arrested and charged with filing 17 sets of false tax documents to the IRS. [https://twitter.com/rickydoggin/status/1759623388509929853 https://twitter.com/rickydoggin/status/1759623388509929853] 3. We have Letitia James whose sole campaign promise was to "get Trump at any cost" -- seems like they're willing to make up anything for a political win, even if it's a complete lie. Can't trust someone whose mission is clearly a witch hunt. Integrity doesn't matter to them. ...and they want to insinuate that Trump is corrupt? Talk about hypocrisy. These are the people who are entrusted with "getting Trump", seriously? This should ruin your trust in anyone going after Trump and increase your scrutiny towards those who (apparently) have no integrity or basis for going after this guy. This is why conservatives rightly have a strong argument against this witch hunt, any why they feel justified in continuing to support Trump. Find us someone whose record is clean, and then we can talk.
    - dctoedt 3y ago
      On the contrary: What you call "lawfare" is actually one of democracy's first lines of defense against Pied Piper wannabe dictators. Just imagine: What if Hitler hadn't been on the German ballot in 1932 because of his failed 1923 Munich coup attempt. Instead, the weak-kneed Bavarian authorities did an Emily Litella and said, in effect, "Never mind" about his treason conviction and imprisonment (he was released after only nine months).
      - docmars 3y ago
        This string of lawsuits are mostly failing though — what does that say about "democracy" (aka mob rule)?
        dctoedt 3y ago
        Hitler was convicted. Democracy ≠ mob rule.
        unethical_ban 3y ago
        Verifiably false unless your source of information is Jesse Watters or similarly disingenuous ilk. These trials have barely begun because the former president is desperate to get into power before a verdict can be handed down (classified documents and Georgia case). He's already been found guilty of insurrection by a state court, and the SCOTUS hasn't argued against it. They are only deciding if a state is allowed to remove someone from the ballot on charges of insurrection. The former president's attempt to evade prosecution by claiming total immunity (laughable in a democracy) has failed. So no. Valid cases against the former president are not failing. They are taking place.
        docmars 3y ago
        >Jesse Watters or similarly disingenuous ilk A valid source for millions of people, if you aren't politically motivated against him or related sources, of course — which is the case here. This is not a democracy, despite what the silly Progressives want to believe. Playing pretend is commonplace, of course. We are a Constitutional Republic and always have been. Democracy, as we're using it here, is an illusion of choice. Yes, we vote, but that doesn't define us as a democracy. We elect representatives to make informed choices on our behalf. You nor I have any direct impact on our laws or leadership — it's just the facts. Burning, looting, rioting, and abuse of the legal system is how democracy is defined by Progressives because their policies can't be successful without some form of subversion, demoralization, and unfair play. Hence, democracy as declared here is synonymous with mob rule.
  - macromagnon 3y ago
    Nothing happens to random people with no power, but if a legitimate threat to the status quo appeared, I don't think it would end up so peaceful.

secondary_op 3y ago

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MrDresden 3y ago
Let's wait and see what his legacy will be.
unethical_ban 3y ago
In America, when the two party system is criticized and people push for changes to the way we vote, we don't get put in prison or poisoned with nerve gas or radioactive tea.
- docmars 3y ago
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  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    I literally have no idea what you're talking about. Could you explain who has been a victim of this? Please don't say the former president who has worked hard to delay trials.
    - docmars 3y ago
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      - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-trial-ruling.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-frau... > Trump Is Ordered to Pay $355 Million and Is Barred From New York Business :)
        docmars 3y ago
        > Trump will appeal this and probably win :)
        deleted 3y ago
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        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        What evidence are you basing that on?
        docmars 3y ago
        1. The outcomes are very clearly politically motivated. 2. The bank CEOs who testified agreed that there was no wrongdoing on Trump's part. The loans are paid. 3. There is no victim in the case. ("bUt thE StaTe..." [eyeroll]) 4. Kevin O'Leary condemns the ruling as baseless and corrupt. That's kind of a big deal. [https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1759639865174729101 https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/17596398651747291...] --- On a related note, look at the kinds of people who are going after Trump: 1. We have Fani Willis and her little boyfriend in Georgia using cash she pulled out of her campaign to evade accountability (that's a felony). 2. We have this little pr*ck filing lawsuits in every state to have Trump removed from their ballots, being arrested and charged with filing 17 sets of false tax documents to the IRS. [https://twitter.com/rickydoggin/status/1759623388509929853 https://twitter.com/rickydoggin/status/1759623388509929853] 3. We have Letitia James whose sole campaign promise was to "get Trump at any cost" -- seems like they're willing to make up anything for a political win, even if it's a complete lie. Can't trust someone whose mission is clearly a witch hunt. Integrity doesn't matter to them. ...and they want to insinuate that Trump is corrupt? Talk about hypocrisy. These are the people who are entrusted with "getting Trump", seriously? This should ruin your trust in anyone going after Trump and increase your scrutiny towards those who (apparently) have no integrity or basis for going after this guy. This is why conservatives rightly have a strong argument against this witch hunt, any why they feel justified in continuing to support Trump. Find us someone whose record is clean, and then we can talk.
  - dctoedt 3y ago
    On the contrary: What you call "lawfare" is actually one of democracy's first lines of defense against Pied Piper wannabe dictators. Just imagine: What if Hitler hadn't been on the German ballot in 1932 because of his failed 1923 Munich coup attempt. Instead, the weak-kneed Bavarian authorities did an Emily Litella and said, in effect, "Never mind" about his treason conviction and imprisonment (he was released after only nine months).
    - docmars 3y ago
      This string of lawsuits are mostly failing though — what does that say about "democracy" (aka mob rule)?
      - dctoedt 3y ago
        Hitler was convicted. Democracy ≠ mob rule.
      - unethical_ban 3y ago
        Verifiably false unless your source of information is Jesse Watters or similarly disingenuous ilk. These trials have barely begun because the former president is desperate to get into power before a verdict can be handed down (classified documents and Georgia case). He's already been found guilty of insurrection by a state court, and the SCOTUS hasn't argued against it. They are only deciding if a state is allowed to remove someone from the ballot on charges of insurrection. The former president's attempt to evade prosecution by claiming total immunity (laughable in a democracy) has failed. So no. Valid cases against the former president are not failing. They are taking place.
        docmars 3y ago
        >Jesse Watters or similarly disingenuous ilk A valid source for millions of people, if you aren't politically motivated against him or related sources, of course — which is the case here. This is not a democracy, despite what the silly Progressives want to believe. Playing pretend is commonplace, of course. We are a Constitutional Republic and always have been. Democracy, as we're using it here, is an illusion of choice. Yes, we vote, but that doesn't define us as a democracy. We elect representatives to make informed choices on our behalf. You nor I have any direct impact on our laws or leadership — it's just the facts. Burning, looting, rioting, and abuse of the legal system is how democracy is defined by Progressives because their policies can't be successful without some form of subversion, demoralization, and unfair play. Hence, democracy as declared here is synonymous with mob rule.
- macromagnon 3y ago
  Nothing happens to random people with no power, but if a legitimate threat to the status quo appeared, I don't think it would end up so peaceful.