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That's right there are no differences. The UK nabbed a 17 year old English girl named Carole Richardson in 1975 and tortured her until she confessed to bombin

That's right there are no differences. The UK nabbed a 17 year old English girl named Carole Richardson in 1975 and tortured her until she confessed to bombing pubs that soldiers frequented in Guildford. Her detention without charge for many days was allowed due to then recent legislation stripping those civil liberties. Her and three Irishmen she knew who were also tortured and who also confessed under torture were sentenced. In 1977 the Balmcombe Street IRA ASU was arrested, and proclaimed the Guildford Four were innocent. It later came our that police had lied and submitted false evidence during the trial. All to further the British occupation of Ireland which is similar to the Russian occupation of the Ukraine. Yes UK prison cells are the same. The British tested torture techniques on Irish they arrested in the 1970s, there is a book called the Guineapigs about it.

KingOfCoders 3y ago
"Yes UK prison cells are the same." So 1977 is today? (personally when making that argument I'd use the Boers genocide by the British in the prison system, would have more impact). The dungeons of 1244 France are the same as the prison system in France today? The German prison system today is the same as in 1944? What kind of physics theory of time equivalence is that? Did the UK torture prisoners. Sure. Should someone go to jail for this. Sure. Is todays UK prison system the same as Russias Gulag? No.
- metricspaces 3y ago
  the word you are looking for here is ‘regime change’. it is true that it is unreasonable to bring up ‘historic matter’, that is conduct in the ‘prior regime’, to discuss the merits of the current regime. Germany suffered total defeat in WW2 and so its “1944” prison conditions mean nothing. UK arguably can claim “a win” after the end of USSR (the only possible ‘regime change’ we can consider as relevant matter) and so ‘regime vindicated!’ and thus conduct of UK against Irish resistance is relevant as evidence.
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    I'd really like to know: You think Margaret Thatcher and Gordon Brown are the same "regime"? Can democracies in this view ever change? Has there been any regime change in England since 1066? (not trolling)
arp242 3y ago
> All to further the British occupation of Ireland which is similar to the Russian occupation of the Ukraine. British occupation of Ireland ended over a 100 years ago. And many people in Northern Ireland do not want to be part of the ROI. There would have been no conflict if that wasn't the case. I have strongly criticized the British actions during The Troubles in the past on many difference fronts, but to equate the invasion of Ukraine with the complex situation in NI is offensively misinformed.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

"Yes UK prison cells are the same." So 1977 is today? (personally when making that argument I'd use the Boers genocide by the British in the prison system, would have more impact). The dungeons of 1244 France are the same as the prison system in France today? The German prison system today is the same as in 1944? What kind of physics theory of time equivalence is that? Did the UK torture prisoners. Sure. Should someone go to jail for this. Sure. Is todays UK prison system the same as Russias Gulag? No.

metricspaces 3y ago
the word you are looking for here is ‘regime change’. it is true that it is unreasonable to bring up ‘historic matter’, that is conduct in the ‘prior regime’, to discuss the merits of the current regime. Germany suffered total defeat in WW2 and so its “1944” prison conditions mean nothing. UK arguably can claim “a win” after the end of USSR (the only possible ‘regime change’ we can consider as relevant matter) and so ‘regime vindicated!’ and thus conduct of UK against Irish resistance is relevant as evidence.
- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  I'd really like to know: You think Margaret Thatcher and Gordon Brown are the same "regime"? Can democracies in this view ever change? Has there been any regime change in England since 1066? (not trolling)

arp242 3y ago

> All to further the British occupation of Ireland which is similar to the Russian occupation of the Ukraine. British occupation of Ireland ended over a 100 years ago. And many people in Northern Ireland do not want to be part of the ROI. There would have been no conflict if that wasn't the case. I have strongly criticized the British actions during The Troubles in the past on many difference fronts, but to equate the invasion of Ukraine with the complex situation in NI is offensively misinformed.