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We’re talking about the military portion on that page.

KingOfCoders 3y ago
And the EU is spending more on military aid then the US. As World = EU + X and X>0 => The world is spending more on military aid then the US.
joakleaf 3y ago
That was certainly not clear, but it is still does not fit this chart [1] Looking at Military add only: The US has provided: ~$42.2B Germany + United Kingdom + Denmark + Norway + Netherlands + Poland + EU inst.: ~$51B [1] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...
- cglace 3y ago
  Oh man, the EU plus the rest of the world are eking it out before the US passes another spending bill. . . This also includes long-term commitments that have not yet been delivered. EU promising to provide 1 million artillery shells two years from now doesn't help Ukraine at this time.
  - piva00 3y ago
    The US not passing a spending bill and getting constantly deadlocked by the GOP to even table it in Congress also do not help Ukraine at this time. Also, it's not even close to a certainty that the spending bill will pass, and the chance of that happening diminishes every single day while this stupid presidential election doesn't happen.
eino 3y ago
The quote from OP was "The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin". Which is just completely false. Now you're just moving goalposts.
- cglace 3y ago
  But does it change the more significant point of the US being Ukraine's most important partner in terms of military support? I was countering the narrative that the US is not a good partner. As internet forums do, everyone globbed onto the specific number, not the point being made.
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
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    - cglace 3y ago
      My point, as I'm sure you are aware, is that the US is by far the largest supporter of Ukraine. The fact that the entire world narrowly edges out the US regarding military support does not detract from that fact. As I've said, I agree now that the world has pledged to give more support to Ukraine than the US currently has. However, I do not see how that changes the more significant point. Perhaps you can explain to me(with less snark and condescension) how the US is a bad partner, but the rest are great.

And the EU is spending more on military aid then the US. As World = EU + X and X>0 => The world is spending more on military aid then the US.

joakleaf 3y ago

That was certainly not clear, but it is still does not fit this chart [1] Looking at Military add only: The US has provided: ~$42.2B Germany + United Kingdom + Denmark + Norway + Netherlands + Poland + EU inst.: ~$51B [1] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

cglace 3y ago
Oh man, the EU plus the rest of the world are eking it out before the US passes another spending bill. . . This also includes long-term commitments that have not yet been delivered. EU promising to provide 1 million artillery shells two years from now doesn't help Ukraine at this time.
- piva00 3y ago
  The US not passing a spending bill and getting constantly deadlocked by the GOP to even table it in Congress also do not help Ukraine at this time. Also, it's not even close to a certainty that the spending bill will pass, and the chance of that happening diminishes every single day while this stupid presidential election doesn't happen.

eino 3y ago

The quote from OP was "The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin". Which is just completely false. Now you're just moving goalposts.

cglace 3y ago
But does it change the more significant point of the US being Ukraine's most important partner in terms of military support? I was countering the narrative that the US is not a good partner. As internet forums do, everyone globbed onto the specific number, not the point being made.
- KingOfCoders 3y ago
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  - cglace 3y ago
    My point, as I'm sure you are aware, is that the US is by far the largest supporter of Ukraine. The fact that the entire world narrowly edges out the US regarding military support does not detract from that fact. As I've said, I agree now that the world has pledged to give more support to Ukraine than the US currently has. However, I do not see how that changes the more significant point. Perhaps you can explain to me(with less snark and condescension) how the US is a bad partner, but the rest are great.