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> What are a 100M (of our) people dead if we own Ukraine/Baltics/East Poland/Georgia/... for the next hundreds of years? The fertility rate more than halved si

> What are a 100M (of our) people dead if we own Ukraine/Baltics/East Poland/Georgia/... for the next hundreds of years? The fertility rate more than halved since then, they're not playing with the same cards anymore

Moldoteck 3y ago
you can just make people poorer and they'll have more childs, that's the lifehack
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  People have been steadily getting poorer thanks to inflation eating their stagnating wages combined with skyrocketing consumer and housing prices and the birthrate keeps dropping. Poor people had plenty of kids because they had no standards nor accessible birth control or they come from a conservative religious culture where having kids is the norm. But once people taste the good life, like westerners had it so good a while a ago, they don't want to bring kids in economic conditions worse than before, so the poorer you make them, the less kids they'll have. So to compensate, you don't focus on improving the conditions for the locals to convince them to procreate, but you open the immigration gates to people from poor places with no standards, happy to bring kids in conditions that are way better than what they have in their own country, even though they're worse than the locals had a few decades ago.
KingOfCoders 3y ago
Putin is doing everything to get fertility rate up again [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-urges-russians-have-more-kids-says-ethnic-survival-stake-2024-02-15/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-urges-russians-ha...
- secondary_op 3y ago
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  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    "The fertility rate more than halved since then, they're not playing with the same cards anymore "
- azangru 3y ago
  > Putin is doing everything to get fertility rate up again Any success?
  - drdaeman 3y ago
    He absolutely increased poverty levels, education is in extremely sharp decline, propaganda is thriving, and he started to fight birth control (so far, emergency contraception only). And I must remind that Russia is having an electoral event this March, so the repressions were temporarily put on a back burner - but unpopular changes will come shortly afterwards. Check back in May or June.

Moldoteck 3y ago

you can just make people poorer and they'll have more childs, that's the lifehack

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
People have been steadily getting poorer thanks to inflation eating their stagnating wages combined with skyrocketing consumer and housing prices and the birthrate keeps dropping. Poor people had plenty of kids because they had no standards nor accessible birth control or they come from a conservative religious culture where having kids is the norm. But once people taste the good life, like westerners had it so good a while a ago, they don't want to bring kids in economic conditions worse than before, so the poorer you make them, the less kids they'll have. So to compensate, you don't focus on improving the conditions for the locals to convince them to procreate, but you open the immigration gates to people from poor places with no standards, happy to bring kids in conditions that are way better than what they have in their own country, even though they're worse than the locals had a few decades ago.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

Putin is doing everything to get fertility rate up again [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-urges-russians-have-more-kids-says-ethnic-survival-stake-2024-02-15/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-urges-russians-ha...

secondary_op 3y ago
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- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  "The fertility rate more than halved since then, they're not playing with the same cards anymore "
azangru 3y ago
> Putin is doing everything to get fertility rate up again Any success?
- drdaeman 3y ago
  He absolutely increased poverty levels, education is in extremely sharp decline, propaganda is thriving, and he started to fight birth control (so far, emergency contraception only). And I must remind that Russia is having an electoral event this March, so the repressions were temporarily put on a back burner - but unpopular changes will come shortly afterwards. Check back in May or June.