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The upcoming 2024 election cycle will be one for the history books, regardless of outcome. And that outcome can be incredibly bad. I said it before, if Trump g

by hef19898 3y ago

The upcoming 2024 election cycle will be one for the history books, regardless of outcome. And that outcome can be incredibly bad. I said it before, if Trump gets a second term, he will have a third. And then democracy as we know it in the Western world will be dead.

jacquesm 3y ago
The one saving grace is that he's old. You'd hope for some divine intervention, unfortunately I'm not religious.
- hef19898 3y ago
  Yeah, Trump wont drop out unless he dies. He desperately wants to stay out of prison. And people behind him want to stay in power. Fingers crossed we all dodge a bullet this year. Because if we end up with Presidente Marine Le-Pen, President Trump and an AfD-let German government, well, things look grim. Poland gave me some hope so.
prmph 3y ago
And about half of the West will be OK with that. Interesting times we live in.
- hef19898 3y ago
  If you really drill down the numbers, there are the cibstant 25% or so actively supporting it, regardless of country, with enough others tagging along passively to get the 25% dangerously close to actual power. Interesting times indeed.
- celdon25 3y ago
  Look to our current president for a strong argument that there are not enough qualified candidates. Oops!
celdon25 3y ago
> I said it before, if Trump gets a second term, he will have a third. And then democracy as we know it in the Western world will be dead. It’s not so simple. The Democratic party strategy has been to use hypothetical situations like this to justify (to the public) the arrests, ballot disqualification, deplatforming, and any other unprecedented means to hinder the chances of Trump winning in a fair election. They already spied on his campaign in 2016 without repercussions (you probably don’t understand how serious that is), and lied about the Russia hoax, and countless other examples. I don’t know if a third term will happen, but a large portion of the public is mad about this. So I can’t take this argument seriously, but a significant portion of the public apparently does. That’s an actual, not hypothetical failure of democracy. Rules for thee, not for me.
- hef19898 3y ago
  >> Rules for thee, not for me. And you were sooooo close... A pitty, really...

jacquesm 3y ago

The one saving grace is that he's old. You'd hope for some divine intervention, unfortunately I'm not religious.

hef19898 3y ago
Yeah, Trump wont drop out unless he dies. He desperately wants to stay out of prison. And people behind him want to stay in power. Fingers crossed we all dodge a bullet this year. Because if we end up with Presidente Marine Le-Pen, President Trump and an AfD-let German government, well, things look grim. Poland gave me some hope so.

prmph 3y ago

And about half of the West will be OK with that. Interesting times we live in.

hef19898 3y ago
If you really drill down the numbers, there are the cibstant 25% or so actively supporting it, regardless of country, with enough others tagging along passively to get the 25% dangerously close to actual power. Interesting times indeed.
celdon25 3y ago
Look to our current president for a strong argument that there are not enough qualified candidates. Oops!

celdon25 3y ago

> I said it before, if Trump gets a second term, he will have a third. And then democracy as we know it in the Western world will be dead. It’s not so simple. The Democratic party strategy has been to use hypothetical situations like this to justify (to the public) the arrests, ballot disqualification, deplatforming, and any other unprecedented means to hinder the chances of Trump winning in a fair election. They already spied on his campaign in 2016 without repercussions (you probably don’t understand how serious that is), and lied about the Russia hoax, and countless other examples. I don’t know if a third term will happen, but a large portion of the public is mad about this. So I can’t take this argument seriously, but a significant portion of the public apparently does. That’s an actual, not hypothetical failure of democracy. Rules for thee, not for me.

hef19898 3y ago
>> Rules for thee, not for me. And you were sooooo close... A pitty, really...