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As soon as the Ukraine war comes to a standstill, Russia will start riots in the Baltics to create a land connection to Kaliningrad.
by KingOfCoders 3y ago
As soon as the Ukraine war comes to a standstill, Russia will start riots in the Baltics to create a land connection to Kaliningrad.
- cbg0 3y agoHow exactly will Russia start "riots" in NATO countries?
- The_Colonel 3y agoWith the large Russian minority living there. Just like it started in Donbas.
- thriftwy 3y ago[flagged]
- The_Colonel 3y agoWasn't all of this in Crimea / Donbas? It did not seem to help there.
- thriftwy 3y agoUkraine was busy closing Russian language schools all across country, including Donbass. The inconvenient truth is that such a policy didn't get any serious reversal during the reign of "pro-Russian, Donbass choice" Yanukovich. Nevertheless, Donbass only really went ballistic when the first action of post-Yanukovich Rada was to repeal the "language law" which half-assedly permitted the things I have mentioned in my previous comment.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago> Ukraine was busy closing Russian language schools all across country, including Donbass. russia is closing Ukrainian-language schools across Ukraine. Bad or Good? What % of schools in russia are Ukrainian-language and are not closed?
- thriftwy 3y agoThey are mostly in place. You can get "Ukrainian as native tongue" lessons in these "new regions". Not sure about LDNR as there's some stigma, plus the fact that all those regions are predominantly Russian speaking.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago[flagged]
- thriftwy 3y ago[flagged]
- KingOfCoders 3y agoThe same way as in Transnistra, Georgia and Ukraine. Soviet Russia colonized these areas with Russians to control access to the baltic sea/coal production/... and today these Russians lead a "Back to Mother Russia" campaigns.
- ceejayoz 3y agoVia the standard playbook. https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/01/russian-facebook-page-organized-protest-texas-different-russian-page-l/ https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/01/russian-facebook-pag... https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/russia-facebook-race/542796/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/ru... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/30/blacktivist-facebook-account-russia-us-election https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/30/blacktivi...
- wouldbecouldbe 3y agoMaking it about US, main concern is Baltics
- ceejayoz 3y agoA playbook is made up of repeatable tactics.
- sach1 3y agoI think the links there are less about 'wow look at how this disruption playbook worked in the US' and more about'look you can cause instability without inviting open warfare with NATO'. Or are the Baltics and her people immune to propaganda?
- wouldbecouldbe 3y agoActivating Russian communities is something different from promoting polarity in the US.
- ceejayoz 3y agoSure, but they do the "promoting polarity" thing outside the US plenty. It's a useful tactic; pick wedge issues like gay people or immigrants, spread false or out-of-context news, etc. For a nice Baltic example, Lithuania: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-baltic-elves-taking-on-pro-russian-trolls https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-baltic-elves-taking-on-pro... > Facebook is where the light skirmishes take place; the mortal combat is reserved for the comment sections of Lithuanian news articles, where the trolls loose a constant drizzle of falsehoods and complaints, each comment helping to construct an alternate reality version of life in this Baltic country of 3 million. Rather than a thriving and patriotic post-Soviet success story, which it is, the image the trolls cultivate is that of a demoralized and angry society whose people are ready for regime change, be it through internal democratic mechanisms or through “liberation” by a friendly neighboring army.
- Paradigma11 3y agoThere are significant Russian minorities left in the baltic states from the SU. Russia will support and radicalize those. If the Baltics dont react it will lead to unrest and Russia is forced to intervene and "protect" their fellow Russians. If the states react this will be seen as suppressing the Russian minorities and Russia will be forced to intervene and "protect" their fellow Russians.
- riku_iki 3y agoBaltic is part of NATO, it means NATO direct military response.
- Paradigma11 3y agoTrue, Putin would need to wait for Trump to make it clear that he wouldnt come to their defense and/or Orban/Fico have done enough damage to the Organization to make this viable.
- the_why_of_y 3y agoThe same way they already did in Estonia in 2007? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xq2XrCHv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xq2XrCHv8
- secondary_op 3y ago[flagged]
- avtolik 3y agoThey didn't need the land of Ukraine, but they invaded.
- secondary_op 3y agoWatch taker Tucker Carlson's Interview for explanation, spoiler alert it is not to acquire more land mass.
- meragrin_ 3y agoI tried, but I couldn't get through the bull. It was way too painful to watch all the way through. Maybe you could enlighten us?
- KingOfCoders 3y agoPutin and the Russian political elite have declared several times, in speeches and articles, they want the Russian Tsar Empire back. As early as 1994 it was clear that Putin wants the Baltics back (see Hamburg incident).
- secondary_op 3y ago[flagged]
- Qwertious 3y agoNot a chance. Kaliningrad is barely even useful to Russia - now that Finland is part of NATO, they can't cut off the Baltics from resupply, and the Baltics watched Ukraine and are less enthusiastic about Russia than ever. Realistically there's no (strategic) benefit to even defending Kaliningrad in case of a war (and the thing is surrounded by NATO so it would be taken immediately if not heavily defended), so stationing lots of troops there is just a pointless drain on resources. If the Kaliningrad secession movement picks up steam, then they might just let them leave.