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He is not an "anti-war candidate". To think it is possible without FSB approval is naivety. His purpose was to collect lists of people who signed for him (that

by mistyq 3y ago

He is not an "anti-war candidate". To think it is possible without FSB approval is naivety. His purpose was to collect lists of people who signed for him (that is, new opposition that hasn't emigrated and formed naturally in 2022-2024 - needless to say, it consists of completely different demographics and people's backgrounds from the "old" opposition). Unfortunately these people are too naive to recognize the danger.

throwaway290 3y ago
this is FUD. Inventing another candidate while already sitting on already existing lists of tons of Navalny supporters? supporters to whom nothing happened through all that time? doesn't pass the smell check
- herculity275 3y ago
  Navalnyists are soft-banned in Russia. They can't make any meaningful public statements without hitting one of the censure laws (e.g. it's illegal to say anything about the war that differs from the official Kremlin line). The FSB just slaps the "foreign agent" designation onto the more loud ones and makes their lives difficult enough for them to migrate away. It's a slow cleanse but it's pretty effective.
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    You are talking about public discourse I replied to comment claiming a candidate was invented by our gov to collect PII of people who signed for him. Until people who donated/signed for Navalny are in trouble I don't see why that can be true
- wruza 3y ago
  There are tons of Navalny non-supporters who are latently opposed. Personally I'd say that they are actually more dangerous to the regime due to the stratum they represent. You just don't hear it on the internet because they are older and have shit to lose. Alexey was a youth's idol, not adults'. Many people never considered him a good politician, if mediocre. Maybe that other person wasn't "invented", but they definitely could use him as a trap. There's no way anything could change here through "elections".
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    I don't get, most who could get trapped by signing/donating to the new guy could already be via donating/signing for Navalny. Years passed and nothing
golergka 3y ago
I've known him personally for quite a time and that's a ridiculous statement. He never was and isn't a revolutionary, but he always was pretty sincere in his beliefs and his attempts to fight in rapidly closing legal space.

by mistyq 3y ago

throwaway290 3y ago

this is FUD. Inventing another candidate while already sitting on already existing lists of tons of Navalny supporters? supporters to whom nothing happened through all that time? doesn't pass the smell check

herculity275 3y ago
Navalnyists are soft-banned in Russia. They can't make any meaningful public statements without hitting one of the censure laws (e.g. it's illegal to say anything about the war that differs from the official Kremlin line). The FSB just slaps the "foreign agent" designation onto the more loud ones and makes their lives difficult enough for them to migrate away. It's a slow cleanse but it's pretty effective.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  You are talking about public discourse I replied to comment claiming a candidate was invented by our gov to collect PII of people who signed for him. Until people who donated/signed for Navalny are in trouble I don't see why that can be true
wruza 3y ago
There are tons of Navalny non-supporters who are latently opposed. Personally I'd say that they are actually more dangerous to the regime due to the stratum they represent. You just don't hear it on the internet because they are older and have shit to lose. Alexey was a youth's idol, not adults'. Many people never considered him a good politician, if mediocre. Maybe that other person wasn't "invented", but they definitely could use him as a trap. There's no way anything could change here through "elections".
- throwaway290 3y ago
  I don't get, most who could get trapped by signing/donating to the new guy could already be via donating/signing for Navalny. Years passed and nothing

golergka 3y ago

I've known him personally for quite a time and that's a ridiculous statement. He never was and isn't a revolutionary, but he always was pretty sincere in his beliefs and his attempts to fight in rapidly closing legal space.