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I often wonder what Russia will be like once Putin is gone. The time he has left can't be very long, so what happens then?

timeon 3y ago
> can't be very long He still has ~20 years.
- falcor84 3y ago
  Yes, I expect he'll be getting every possible half-tested life extension treatment that money can buy. At this stage, I also wouldn't be that surprised if he amends their constitution to allow his uploaded intelligence to continue in the role after his physical death.
lifestyleguru 3y ago
Some other oligarch nominated alpha racketeer takes over.
KingOfCoders 3y ago
Break up and civil war.
- secondary_op 3y ago
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  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    I'd bet on "IQ of chimpanzee". And my chimpanzee brain says: Break up of the British empire: Civil war. Break up of the Soviet empire: Civil war. Break up of the German empire: Civil war. Break up of the Russian empire: My chimpanzee brain thinks ...
JohnBooty 3y ago
I can only imagine an absolutely massive power vacuum followed by the inevitable power struggle lasting a decade or two.
maratc 3y ago
Once Putin is gone, someone else is going to take his place. There won't be much difference between Putin and the other guy, and that (small) difference may be for the better or it may be for the worse. Putin is not in that place because he's somehow an extremely talented (or extremely lucky) person. Putin is there because that's what most of the Russian elite wants. Once he's gone, the Russian elite will put there somebody else who will fit them the most. It would not be reasonable to expect any drastic difference given the unchanging circumstances.
- sidibe 3y ago
  I think this paints a picture of oligarchy that might have been true when he first came to power but the tail is now wagging the dog. In fact it's not even the same dog the elites and billionaires of Russia now are childhood friends of Putin, people who worked with him in KGB or St Petersburg mayors office, the chef at a restaurant he frequented (RIP), etc. I'm sure any of the original Russian elites left that weren't brought in by Putin regret him being put there would secretly love to see him gone. That doesn't mean they wouldn't end up in the same situation, countries where nobody trusts each other just waiting for the next dictator hard to get out of that cycle
  - maratc 3y ago
    > I'm sure any of the original Russian elites left that weren't brought in by Putin regret him being put there would secretly love to see him gone Any elites that are there since before Putin, of whom there was notably more in 2012, could simply nominate someone else for the elections in 2012, or failing that, just keep that Medvedev guy for the second term. For some reason, they decided to move Medvedev away and put Putin back. I am afraid that the set "any of the original Russian elites... that weren't brought in by Putin [and] regret him being put there" is an empty one.
    - chupasaurus 3y ago
      > For some reason The whole reason was to reset the counter of 2 consequent terms of presidency without touching the constitution since "The Party" didn't have 2/3 of parliament to be sure.

timeon 3y ago

> can't be very long He still has ~20 years.

falcor84 3y ago
Yes, I expect he'll be getting every possible half-tested life extension treatment that money can buy. At this stage, I also wouldn't be that surprised if he amends their constitution to allow his uploaded intelligence to continue in the role after his physical death.

lifestyleguru 3y ago

Some other oligarch nominated alpha racketeer takes over.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

Break up and civil war.

secondary_op 3y ago
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- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  I'd bet on "IQ of chimpanzee". And my chimpanzee brain says: Break up of the British empire: Civil war. Break up of the Soviet empire: Civil war. Break up of the German empire: Civil war. Break up of the Russian empire: My chimpanzee brain thinks ...

JohnBooty 3y ago

I can only imagine an absolutely massive power vacuum followed by the inevitable power struggle lasting a decade or two.

maratc 3y ago

Once Putin is gone, someone else is going to take his place. There won't be much difference between Putin and the other guy, and that (small) difference may be for the better or it may be for the worse. Putin is not in that place because he's somehow an extremely talented (or extremely lucky) person. Putin is there because that's what most of the Russian elite wants. Once he's gone, the Russian elite will put there somebody else who will fit them the most. It would not be reasonable to expect any drastic difference given the unchanging circumstances.

sidibe 3y ago
I think this paints a picture of oligarchy that might have been true when he first came to power but the tail is now wagging the dog. In fact it's not even the same dog the elites and billionaires of Russia now are childhood friends of Putin, people who worked with him in KGB or St Petersburg mayors office, the chef at a restaurant he frequented (RIP), etc. I'm sure any of the original Russian elites left that weren't brought in by Putin regret him being put there would secretly love to see him gone. That doesn't mean they wouldn't end up in the same situation, countries where nobody trusts each other just waiting for the next dictator hard to get out of that cycle
- maratc 3y ago
  > I'm sure any of the original Russian elites left that weren't brought in by Putin regret him being put there would secretly love to see him gone Any elites that are there since before Putin, of whom there was notably more in 2012, could simply nominate someone else for the elections in 2012, or failing that, just keep that Medvedev guy for the second term. For some reason, they decided to move Medvedev away and put Putin back. I am afraid that the set "any of the original Russian elites... that weren't brought in by Putin [and] regret him being put there" is an empty one.
  - chupasaurus 3y ago
    > For some reason The whole reason was to reset the counter of 2 consequent terms of presidency without touching the constitution since "The Party" didn't have 2/3 of parliament to be sure.