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Using a service like Klarna means you're bad at dealing with money, so it makes sense.
by vdaea 3y ago
Using a service like Klarna means you're bad at dealing with money, so it makes sense.
- BadBadJellyBean 3y agoIt isn't. I financed my phone for free via Klarna. I could easily pay it at once but why would I. In the end I save a bit because of inflation.
- vdaea 3y agoUnless either your salary or the price of the phone increased in those months, you didn't save anything.
- TheNorthman 3y agoHe can't predict the future. The relevant metric must be 1. The chance, weighted by amount, of a price hike/salary increase 2. The chance, weighted by amount, of a price decline/salary decrease. As inflation is generally an upward trend, clearly no. 1 is more likely and thus the best bet.
- chmod775 3y agoAnother advantage of financing even though you would have had the money on hand is that you have more liquidity/the option of doing something with that money in the meantime. Also someone may have some assets they could turn into liquid cash if I really needed to but may not have a lot of liquid cash on hand, so there would be little risk in paying something in installments as long as their assets would be enough to cover it in a pinch.
- archi42 3y agoWhile liquidity is a reasonable argument, I only know this from "rich people doing things/investments"; e.g. not selling shares in your company when building a new house, or a company building a warehouse. I am not sure it actually applies to the cost of a phone. Chances are, if those matter, you'd be better off with a cheaper phone to begin with. (Substitute phone with other luxury articles).
- globalise83 3y agoThe price of the phone and the installment amounts are fixed at purchase. If there is a positive inflation rate you are guaranteed to make a real saving (but not a nominal one) by paying some of the purchase amount later on. What happens to your salary or the price of the phone later has nothing to do with it.
- dmurray 3y agoOr if there was literally anything else he'd prefer to buy up front than wait until he'd saved up enough to replace the cost of the phone.
- AlexandrB 3y agoJust by keeping that money in a savings account you'd save something.
- josefx 3y ago> I financed my phone for free via Klarna So how do they make money? Sounds like they would be losing money to inflation by offering that service for free.
- vdaea 3y agoThey make money because they know that if you need to use Klarna to finance a €300 purchase you are very likely to default on the loan and pay interest.
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- chmod775 3y ago> So how do they make money? Generally the logic on "free" financing by the seller is that without it, they may have not made a sale at all. Sure it cuts into their margins, but offering rebates would have had a similar effect. Klarna probably still charges the vendor a few bucks for handling the thing.
- steveklabnik 3y agohttps://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/buy-now-pay-later/ https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/buy-now-pay-later/
- purpleflame1257 3y agoBad at dealing with money isn't necessarily true. Better to say "has outstanding financial obligations."
- lukan 3y agoHuh? Aren't they try to be mainly a online payment provider like paypal? That is how I used them couple of times. Money straight from my bank account via them, towards the shop.
- sofixa 3y agoThey also provide payments plans (pay in 3/4 instalments, or over a year or two) which often, but not always, charge exorbitant rates. I've bought stuff split over 3-4 instalments multiple times for free or for a minimal processing fee (like 3 euros to pay 1600 euros in 4 instalments over 4 months). Always for stuff that I can afford outright, but would prefer to split the costs over multiple months. They probably make their money from the seller who banks on the fact that people would be reassured of being able to afford the high priced item, and thus be making more sells than otherwise.
- kioleanu 3y agoI use Klarna (albeit rarely) to only pay _after_ any returns are completed and only the amount I need. Not pay upfront and then wait good know how long for three online shop to return my money. I always pay well before the deadline. My bank just scraped virtual cards and I use them for online payments so I wanted to use Klarna as a virtual card. Went through the whole process only for it to fail at the end with Klarna saying that they can’t generate that card, but I should go talk to Schufa or Arvato about it. So, not all use cases are bad and Schufa should distinguish between them.