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Change the name please. Most have no good idea how to pronounce it.

by zx8080 3y ago

gruez 3y ago
Forge-joe?
- manfre 3y ago
  I always read it as "For Joe". I'm not the target audience (wants to self manage infra outside of work) and only see the project mentioned here.
  - n3storm 3y ago
    Forjane sound nice also, but better Forboth or why not Forgunowho?
  - n3storm 3y ago
    sorry, Forget about it
PedroBatista 3y ago
Hate to be that guy who "ignores" the huge amount of effort and people's free time just to "bitch" about the name, but... the name is horrible and that has real impact because people can't pronounce it, don't like it and forget about it. So the project will have low adoption and sooner or later will be abandoned. Name is only a factor, but IS a factor. The devs don't owe anything, I'm just asking for a consideration.
- zx8080 3y ago
  > has real impact because people can't pronounce it, don't like it and forget about it. Forgetto
aloisdg 3y ago
Forj-Jo I would say (and so does this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OQMc1rIO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OQMc1rIO4)
- bogwog 3y ago
  I always thought it was "for-jeh-ho", using the Spanish pronunciation for the 'j' I think that's easy to say out loud, but it'd be strange to have a spanglish product name for an international audience.
  - kragen 3y ago
    yeah, [ɾx] is a digraph completely alien to english phonotactics
cassianoleal 3y ago
There is a soundbite somewhere where the authors say it's pronounced for-jay-oh. Edit: https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4 https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4 [0] [0] Linked from https://forgejo.org/faq/#where-does-the-name-come-from https://forgejo.org/faq/#where-does-the-name-come-from
kstrauser 3y ago
I’m pronouncing it “Gitea but the other one”, which still rolls off the tongue better.
- KronisLV 3y ago
  > Gitea but the other one Wouldn't that also be Gogs? https://gogs.io/ https://gogs.io/ I remember when that one was what a lot of people were looking into, before the Gitea fork happened. It's odd to see how this has happened yet again, but I guess is a good thing that it's even possible in the first place, if there are indeed differing values and goals?
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    Fair point, and I used Gogs for a while before switching to Gitea.
dspillett 3y ago
If people find the name irritating enough that they don't want to use the project, they perhaps wouldn't be “good” users of the project anyway. If you _really_ find the name problematical, fork it and rename it yourself. Though accept that you will be volunteering yourself for some admin and comms burden if anyone else uses your fork.
- RamblingCTO 3y ago
  Yeah, it's not real critique unless you feel the need to fork the project!!11
  - dspillett 3y ago
    My main point is that choosing about a name you aren't sure how to pronounce isn't a real critique. If such a name is going to put someone off, did they care about the project in the first place or are they just looking for something to complain about? I shouldn't have muddled the waters with the fork comment. I can understand complaints about conflicting names, blatantly offensive names, and so forth, but names that could be pronounced more than one way? Nope.
CaptainFever 3y ago
I know it's not intended, but I call it "for-ho".
justsomehnguy 3y ago
> Most have no good idea how to pronounce it. Totally agree. Most[0] don't even use English ever in their life. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  That would be more compelling if their entire site and documentation wasn't in english, and if the word in question hadn't been pulled from esperanto, which I can safely say rather fewer people have ever used.
jhbadger 3y ago
It's Esperanto, minus the diacritic on the "g" -- the word is forĝejo, meaning a place where things are forged (metalworking, not false documents). It's basically pronounced like the English word "forge" then "eh" then "yo". Quite a lot of things are named in Esperanto like the cryptocoin Monero (coin), the watch brand Movado (movement), the last name of George Soros (will-soar, I'm not joking; his Esperantist father literally changed his family name to that)

Change the name please. Most have no good idea how to pronounce it.

by zx8080 3y ago

Change the name please. Most have no good idea how to pronounce it.

gruez 3y ago

Forge-joe?

manfre 3y ago
I always read it as "For Joe". I'm not the target audience (wants to self manage infra outside of work) and only see the project mentioned here.
- n3storm 3y ago
  Forjane sound nice also, but better Forboth or why not Forgunowho?
- n3storm 3y ago
  sorry, Forget about it

PedroBatista 3y ago

Hate to be that guy who "ignores" the huge amount of effort and people's free time just to "bitch" about the name, but... the name is horrible and that has real impact because people can't pronounce it, don't like it and forget about it. So the project will have low adoption and sooner or later will be abandoned. Name is only a factor, but IS a factor. The devs don't owe anything, I'm just asking for a consideration.

zx8080 3y ago
> has real impact because people can't pronounce it, don't like it and forget about it. Forgetto

aloisdg 3y ago

Forj-Jo I would say (and so does this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OQMc1rIO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OQMc1rIO4)

bogwog 3y ago
I always thought it was "for-jeh-ho", using the Spanish pronunciation for the 'j' I think that's easy to say out loud, but it'd be strange to have a spanglish product name for an international audience.
- kragen 3y ago
  yeah, [ɾx] is a digraph completely alien to english phonotactics

cassianoleal 3y ago

There is a soundbite somewhere where the authors say it's pronounced for-jay-oh. Edit: https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4 https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4 [0] [0] Linked from https://forgejo.org/faq/#where-does-the-name-come-from https://forgejo.org/faq/#where-does-the-name-come-from

kstrauser 3y ago

I’m pronouncing it “Gitea but the other one”, which still rolls off the tongue better.

KronisLV 3y ago
> Gitea but the other one Wouldn't that also be Gogs? https://gogs.io/ https://gogs.io/ I remember when that one was what a lot of people were looking into, before the Gitea fork happened. It's odd to see how this has happened yet again, but I guess is a good thing that it's even possible in the first place, if there are indeed differing values and goals?
- kstrauser 3y ago
  Fair point, and I used Gogs for a while before switching to Gitea.

dspillett 3y ago

If people find the name irritating enough that they don't want to use the project, they perhaps wouldn't be “good” users of the project anyway. If you _really_ find the name problematical, fork it and rename it yourself. Though accept that you will be volunteering yourself for some admin and comms burden if anyone else uses your fork.

RamblingCTO 3y ago
Yeah, it's not real critique unless you feel the need to fork the project!!11
- dspillett 3y ago
  My main point is that choosing about a name you aren't sure how to pronounce isn't a real critique. If such a name is going to put someone off, did they care about the project in the first place or are they just looking for something to complain about? I shouldn't have muddled the waters with the fork comment. I can understand complaints about conflicting names, blatantly offensive names, and so forth, but names that could be pronounced more than one way? Nope.

CaptainFever 3y ago

I know it's not intended, but I call it "for-ho".

justsomehnguy 3y ago

> Most have no good idea how to pronounce it. Totally agree. Most[0] don't even use English ever in their life. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
That would be more compelling if their entire site and documentation wasn't in english, and if the word in question hadn't been pulled from esperanto, which I can safely say rather fewer people have ever used.

jhbadger 3y ago

It's Esperanto, minus the diacritic on the "g" -- the word is forĝejo, meaning a place where things are forged (metalworking, not false documents). It's basically pronounced like the English word "forge" then "eh" then "yo". Quite a lot of things are named in Esperanto like the cryptocoin Monero (coin), the watch brand Movado (movement), the last name of George Soros (will-soar, I'm not joking; his Esperantist father literally changed his family name to that)