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Jailed Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny is dead, the prison service of the Yamalo-Nenets region where he had been serving his sentence said on Friday.

ivan_gammel 3y ago
This is the Biden‘s red line, just like Syria was the red line for Obama. In 2021 he promised dangerous consequences for Russia if Navalny dies.
- the-dude 3y ago
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  - schappim 3y ago
    I still have no idea who did it. The latest theory even added Gazprom to the suspects list. The blowing up of the pipeline enabled force majeure. By invoking force majeure, Gazprom could potentially avoid penalties for non-fulfillment of their obligations, or renegotiate contracts in a manner that might be financially or strategically beneficial.
- JohnBooty 3y ago
  I'm not sure this situation is comparable because the US is already fighting a proxy war including economic sanctions against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with US materiel and funds directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Russian soldiers. Pentagon estimates 300,000 Russian casualties so far. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/world/europe/russia-invasion-casualties-wounded.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/world/europe/russia-invas... In concrete terms what would you suggest the US do now in order to respond to Navalny's death?
  - ivan_gammel 3y ago
    Situation is comparable politically as an example of promise America probably cannot keep. There’s nothing left to do, no additional pressure to apply. And that is going to have consequences for America more than for Russia.
  - Rapzid 3y ago
    We are not fighting a proxy war with Russia. That term is thrown around too loosely. Ukraine and Russia are at war.
  - actionfromafar 3y ago
    Gift a bunch of strategic bombers and fighter jets? Start training an all-Ukraine submarine crew or three? :-)
- tim333 3y ago
  I predict crossing that line will cause Biden to do nothing different.

ivan_gammel 3y ago

This is the Biden‘s red line, just like Syria was the red line for Obama. In 2021 he promised dangerous consequences for Russia if Navalny dies.

the-dude 3y ago
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- schappim 3y ago
  I still have no idea who did it. The latest theory even added Gazprom to the suspects list. The blowing up of the pipeline enabled force majeure. By invoking force majeure, Gazprom could potentially avoid penalties for non-fulfillment of their obligations, or renegotiate contracts in a manner that might be financially or strategically beneficial.
JohnBooty 3y ago
I'm not sure this situation is comparable because the US is already fighting a proxy war including economic sanctions against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with US materiel and funds directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Russian soldiers. Pentagon estimates 300,000 Russian casualties so far. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/world/europe/russia-invasion-casualties-wounded.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/world/europe/russia-invas... In concrete terms what would you suggest the US do now in order to respond to Navalny's death?
- ivan_gammel 3y ago
  Situation is comparable politically as an example of promise America probably cannot keep. There’s nothing left to do, no additional pressure to apply. And that is going to have consequences for America more than for Russia.
- Rapzid 3y ago
  We are not fighting a proxy war with Russia. That term is thrown around too loosely. Ukraine and Russia are at war.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  Gift a bunch of strategic bombers and fighter jets? Start training an all-Ukraine submarine crew or three? :-)
tim333 3y ago
I predict crossing that line will cause Biden to do nothing different.