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Well, if they really own the phone, you had better make a strong argument on why I should pay for it. If users were renting the phone for less than it cost to
by seec 3y ago
Well, if they really own the phone, you had better make a strong argument on why I should pay for it.
If users were renting the phone for less than it cost to make, I guess you could have an argument about the device just being a necessary tool to access a service, including the app store (just like the alm-in-one modem/routers of telcos in EU).
But that is hardly the case, users pay for iPhones, and quite a lot of money at that, in fact much more in average than buyers of other brands.
So now you REALLY need to explain how they can sell the phone for such a large amount of money and still retain ownership because the way I see it one of these statements cannot be right or it would be both illegal and something users really wouldn't agree to if it were presented like that to them.
The reality is that Apple is abusing its power over a device they already transferred ownership to someone else, because they already got money for it. Any other arguments are a mischaracterization of the situation and the only reason Apple got away with so much control so far is because we collectively (as a society) didn't completely understand what it meant.
But now we are trying to fix and bad faith argument like yours do not help at all...
- rhelz 3y ago// bad faith argument like yours do not help at all.. // Lets take a step back mate :-) and try to look at the situation the way it is, not the way we wish it would be. Software has always been licensed, not sold. And the licensing agreement has always come with terms and conditions dictating what you can and cannot do with your copy of the software, e.g. it can be stipulated that you don't attempt to disassemble it, or make copies and give them away to your friends, etc etc. In particular, you will lose your license to use the software if you break any of those terms and conditions. And inasmuch as an iPhone is just an expensive brick without the software, the reality is that Apple will always have very broad discretion in stipulating how you will use your iPhone. I don't like it any more than you do, but that's just the reality of the situation, and acknowledging the ugly truth is the very antithesis of a bad faith argument.