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Orgzly Revived: a community-maintained version of Orgzly
- yogorenapan 3y ago> The rebranding is due to the disappearance of the Orgzly author Internet disappearances have become more and more common since COVID times. Honestly scares me
- tetris11 3y agoSame thing happened for the Emacs EXWM author Chris Feng: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm
- szundi 3y agoOr since the Ukraine War
- walteweiss 3y agoThe Russian war on Ukraine is the term you were looking for.
- eliotte 3y agoBetter, the proxy war that is actually between USA-Russia.
- stormking 3y agoBullshit.
- kkzz99 3y agoAmerican weapons, American ISR, American planning, American funding... US politicians talk about a "good investment" and "to the last Ukrainian". I don't understand how you could NOT call it a US-proxy war.
- brunoqc 3y agoYeah. A proxy war doesn't mean that Ukraine doesn't deserve to be free. We care about Ukraine and its people, the US care about money and power.
- grotorea 3y agoWe don't call the Korean war the China and USSR-USA war either.
- kkzz99 3y agoI don't think this is the argument you think it is...
- Fice 3y agoAs a Russian I'd rather call it the Putin's war.
- walteweiss 3y agoWhat would you call the other wars then? - Against Georgia (2008) - against Ichkeria, twice (1994, 1999) - against Afghanistan (Dec 24, 1979 – Feb 15, 1989) Just to name a few. ‘As a Russian, I’d rather avoid any responsibility for the actions of my government and play a victim card, telling everyone I didn’t vote for it, so it’s everyone else’s problem.’ Yeah, sounds very Russian to me. Very Russian indeed.
- grotorea 3y agoI do wonder if this is the name that history will stick with. Ukrainian War or even Russo-Ukrainian War (the name for the broader conflict starting in 2014) is shorter.
- seanw444 3y agoRusso-Ukrainian war jives better with other historical conflicts.
- firewolf34 3y agoWow, I live out of Orgzly every day and had no idea this was a thing I needed - every day I am so happy I sub to this site. Thank you for posting!
- radarsat1 3y agoSame here, I use it for todo lists on my phone and didn't know it wasn't being maintained. Although, maybe that's because i haven't encountered any issues. But my use of it is really minimal, as I prefer typing on a keyboard.
- kqr 3y agoLooking back, a few years ago I used to get Orgzly updates fairly regularly and I remember thinking, "Wow, it's nice to use actively developed software and get all these features I never expected but which are convenient." That hasn't happened in a while, but I also didn't realise it hadn't.
- account-5 3y agoI tried using this for a couple of months a while back. I could never get into it, but I wish it all the best.
- ParetoOptimal 3y agoI understand what you mean even though I use orgzly daily.
- account-5 3y agoI really like the idea but there were a couple of things that made it not work for me. I've now just reverted to iCal for scheduling and tasks.
- pachico 3y agoHonest question, how does this compare to Google Keep?
- globular-toast 3y agoDoesn't share your notes with Google for one. Uses a plain text file to store your notes. Org-mode itself is in a different league when it comes to note taking and organisation.
- PurpleRamen 3y agoGoogle Keep is a poor note manager, but a great app for content-capturing (text, audio, picture, drawing,..). Orgzly is basically the opposite, it's only text and great (for mobile devices) at handling this, but anything else is missing. And Keep has a nearly perfect sync, but it's on Google for this. While with orgzly you are on your own, which can be annoying depending on how you sync.
- Forge36 3y agoI find the ability work on emacs superior enough I'm moving my notes. Reorganizing is possible with orgzly. I don't use images anymore.
- colordrops 3y agoI used orgzly+syncthing for a while but the overhead of manually resolving conflicts between my laptop and phone were not worth it in the end. I'd consider using it again if a sync protocol or some other mechanism of merging changes across multiple computers is added.
- pinsl 3y agoI used the same setup and was also frustrated. I replaced Orgzly with Orgro [0] which can only view files but works much better for my purposes. [0] https://github.com/amake/orgro/ https://github.com/amake/orgro/
- wadim 3y agoIt helps a lot if you have a third machine, which runs 24/7. Haven't had any sync conflicts in ages.
- dietr1ch 3y agoSame, added an always-on Raspberry pi + zerotier to the mix and got rid of the sync issues between my phone, laptop and workstation all at once. I wish there was something to make some sort of CRDT for modeling org though. I feel that the operation that ended up causing text conflicts in the past had obvious resolutions with the right structure and Metadata, but yeah, resorting to having a peer always on gets around it more easily that writing my own thing and deviating from emacs and orgzly
- regularfry 3y agoFunnily enough, crdt.el exists. I've tried it for org-mode syncing and the only thing that broke it was having a Windows Emacs connected to the session. It felt like line endings weren't getting handled properly, but I got frustrated with it and gave up in favour of Emacs in a tmux window on a raspberry pi behind my monitor.
- asymmetric 3y agoWhat does the third machine do?
- raffraffraff 3y agoHow does it compare to other note taking apps like Obsidian, Notion, Joplin etc? I used Joplin for about a year and ended up taking a lot of notes. But after a year it was so full of garbage that I found it increasingly difficult to keep things tagged, clearing my "inbox" of quickly taken notes. And it ended up looking like my work email inbox. The catalyst for giving it up was a subtle policy change at work that made me worry about using a personal note taking app with sync to my personal cloud service. I decided to fork my notes into work and personal. Midway through, I just stopped taking long lived notes entirely. I now have one less chore to do. The same thing happened with my RemMarkable 2. in fact I tired of the RM2 in a much shorter time because it was such a nightmare to sync, search handwritten text etc etc. Pity, because regular note taking apps suck at drawing and diagramming. Sure, I will forget stuff, but whatever. Most people forget stuff. Perhaps it's time to revive Joplin and use that Zen-thingemy that was on HN today, the AI tool that gulps your notes and browser history and provides a summariser / searcher? Perhaps that's the only way to take the pain out of note taking apps?
- kkfx 3y agoIt's an org-mode limited editor, to have org-mode outside Emacs. Compared to MarkDown and "modern note apps" using it it's like a starship (org-mode) against a bike (MD and modern apps), but Orgzly is limited by the OS/input mode of so it's barely usable. If you want to take notes seriously you need a desktop.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago> If you want to take notes seriously you need a desktop. Emacs on android and a keyboard also lets you take notes seriously.
- kkfx 3y agoWith a significant dose of masochism only... At least, IMVHO...
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- yewenjie 3y agoI really really need a mobile app for org-mode that syncs without pain (yes, I am aware of Orgzly + Syncthing, I am using it, but it still is not as smooth as I want it to be, and has too many annoyances). I simply cannot imagine leaving the comfort of org-mode for something inferior like markdown, even though there are cool plugins in the Obsidian ecosystem. Question if you are an Obsidian user - what are your most important plugins?
- pinsl 3y agoOrgro [0] is very nice but currently mostly read only [1] [0] https://github.com/amake/orgro/ https://github.com/amake/orgro/ [1] https://orgro.org/faq/ https://orgro.org/faq/
- alwayslikethis 3y agoLogseq supports org files. Though it does have a pretty different default workflow, which is heavy on backlinks and tags.
- Barrin92 3y agois the performance still abysmal? The last time I tried it, a few months ago, you couldn't edit a full page of text without logseq telling you that editing and indexing was disabled for performance reasons. Which is truly bizarre. Sadly didn't work as a replacement for me for that reason.
- raybb 3y agoWhat issues are you having with syncthing? I use it for obsidian and I had quite a bit of annoyances with it until I started having a node running on a VPS that was always on and set the IP address /domain in the mobile application so that it connects almost instantly. Then it didn't matter what my phone and laptop were doing because they could both always connect to the VPS and syncing happened within a second or so.
- Forge36 3y agoWhat do you need syncing for? In my case I sync over WebDAV and the remote is backed by a git client. This lets me sync with emacs
- dig1 3y agoGreat app, and I'm happy someone picked it up. I have been using it for a few years after I switched from MobileOrg [1]. Regarding sync and conflict handling, I find using it with git a much better experience, assuming the git client is installed on the phone. These days, I prefer (fountain) pen and paper, but I still like to throw org-mode syntax across notebooks - it is a no-brainer to retype it or try with some OCR in the future. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.matburt.mobileorg/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.matburt.mobileorg/
- deepnet 3y agoOrgzly means my Org agenda can give me phone notifications, which means one more thing automated and so one less thing I have to pay attention to
- linmob 3y agoMy solve for this is proper Emacs on a mobile monstrosity (a PinePhone Pro with the keyboard accessory). See [0] for more on that. [0]: https://linmob.net/using-the-pinephone-pro-daily-despite-having-given-up-on-it/ https://linmob.net/using-the-pinephone-pro-daily-despite-hav...
- Forge36 3y agoI use both. Normal Android phone with a 60% keyboard.
- exe34 3y agoDoes it have an option to open a file in place in my shared data directory? I don't need to "import" a file into its app data space, and I want to keep using mgit/syncthing to sync across devices. At the moment I have a script that calls org-html-export-to-html which I sync to view, but obviously can't update on the device (without setting up emacs).
- jlokier 3y agoI'm using Orgzly on my phone now to take notes. I also have Emacs on my various computers, always open on at least one, though I never got into Org-mode much. Now, I'd like to try having the same notes on all devices. Synchthing is mentioned often with Orgzly, so I looked into Syncthing. I've been disappointed to find Syncthing drains the phone battery excessively if you enable continuous (event-driven) two-way sync between phone and server. The problem is Syncthing doesn't hook into the phone's notification delivery service, so it can only pick up changes by keeping a socket open to the server and sending packets often, throughout the day, to keep the socket alive. Even if there are no file changes to report. That drains the battery much faster than, say, a chat app that uses the notification service to send triggers from the server to the phone when there's a new message. (I wrote about technical reasons why that's more battery-efficient here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38661294 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38661294). Does anyone have a recommendation that will keep notes in Orgzly two-way synchronised with Org files on my server, reliably, without draining the phone battery excessively, and without a long delay for changes on the server to propagate to the phone?
- bloopernova 3y agoI'm using my fastmail webdav storage. It's accessible from my phone for orgzly, and desktop for Emacs. Edited to add: In Orgzly Revived go to Settings -> Sync -> Repositories and add https://myfiles.fastmail.com/subfoldername/ https://myfiles.fastmail.com/subfoldername/ (I use "Org")
- V1ndaar 3y agoThanks your your input. You made me realize I can use my Hetzner storage box for precisely the same. Neat!
- rrix2 3y agoI use https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android which has an option to run only every X minutes of each hour, as a decent tradeoff. This version also ships and Android Quick Settings tile that will start Syncthing for those X minutes and stop it outside of that schedule, so I'll hit the button as I'm putting on shoes to go out after making a shopping list on my phone or what have you
- axpy906 3y agoI read that name wrong. Time to get more coffee
- xenodium 3y agoIf you're looking for an iOS counterpart, I built https://plainorg.com https://plainorg.com
- sudhirkhanger 3y agoI am still using Orgzly because it supports Dropbox.