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> If the originals are so good and can be played today on modern systems, what more could you bring to the table with modern versions to guarantee a big success

> If the originals are so good and can be played today on modern systems, what more could you bring to the table with modern versions to guarantee a big success. That's a weird deduction. Everything can be improved upon. Why do we have loads of modern games like Doom, for example? It was good too, and can be played today on modern systems.

autoexec 3y ago
I'm still waiting for FMV games to come back into fashion. They were a neat blend of theater and adventure games (which is another genre that doesn't get enough love)
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Apples to oranges. Doom is a different genre. Some genres, like Worms, just peak much sooner than others, like Doom, and don't benefit from newer graphics or technological improvements. Just like UX design, at some point you peak, and any more changes you try to add for the sake of improvements, just end up making the product worse. Look at current commercial operating systems or at Reddit. They also made a 3D Worms game a while back and it was a massive flop. Often, simpler is better. Sure, everything can always be improved an you might hypothetically be able to build an even better Worms game than the original, but since the bar is already so high, you have very little chance of topping it and all the risks of failure.
samatman 3y ago
> Everything can be improved upon Arguable. I've seen variations of Tetris, but never improvements. Nor do I think you can improve stud poker, or Go.
- toast0 3y ago
  Some of the early versions of Tetris only let you rotate one direction. Adding counter rotation is a clear improvement. I like the multiplayer versions over the years. The Tetris Effect is pretty fun, although maybe not strictly an improvement. I'm a little on the fence about 7-bag, because it's a little too evenly distributed, but early Tetris had some gnarly distribution.
  - Eric_WVGG 3y ago
    Tetris Effect is Tetris polished to a freakin diamond.
    - toast0 3y ago
      I enjoy it a lot, but some of the people I've shared it with find the atmosphericness distracting and prefer a Tetris that's only business.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    I had an old job once where the team all played Tetrinet and it was fun, but it did feel very different from normal Tetris.
- Razengan 3y ago
  You can still improve the UI and UX around the gameplay. See the various online Go or Chess servers for example.
nottorp 3y ago
Doom, like Lemmings and Worms, was the first of its kind and you won't be able to recreate the experience just by redoing the graphics. Not to mention that when people say "improved" they usually mean "adding more stuff". More isn't necessarily better.

autoexec 3y ago

I'm still waiting for FMV games to come back into fashion. They were a neat blend of theater and adventure games (which is another genre that doesn't get enough love)

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Apples to oranges. Doom is a different genre. Some genres, like Worms, just peak much sooner than others, like Doom, and don't benefit from newer graphics or technological improvements. Just like UX design, at some point you peak, and any more changes you try to add for the sake of improvements, just end up making the product worse. Look at current commercial operating systems or at Reddit. They also made a 3D Worms game a while back and it was a massive flop. Often, simpler is better. Sure, everything can always be improved an you might hypothetically be able to build an even better Worms game than the original, but since the bar is already so high, you have very little chance of topping it and all the risks of failure.

samatman 3y ago

> Everything can be improved upon Arguable. I've seen variations of Tetris, but never improvements. Nor do I think you can improve stud poker, or Go.

toast0 3y ago
Some of the early versions of Tetris only let you rotate one direction. Adding counter rotation is a clear improvement. I like the multiplayer versions over the years. The Tetris Effect is pretty fun, although maybe not strictly an improvement. I'm a little on the fence about 7-bag, because it's a little too evenly distributed, but early Tetris had some gnarly distribution.
- Eric_WVGG 3y ago
  Tetris Effect is Tetris polished to a freakin diamond.
  - toast0 3y ago
    I enjoy it a lot, but some of the people I've shared it with find the atmosphericness distracting and prefer a Tetris that's only business.
- autoexec 3y ago
  I had an old job once where the team all played Tetrinet and it was fun, but it did feel very different from normal Tetris.
Razengan 3y ago
You can still improve the UI and UX around the gameplay. See the various online Go or Chess servers for example.

nottorp 3y ago

Doom, like Lemmings and Worms, was the first of its kind and you won't be able to recreate the experience just by redoing the graphics. Not to mention that when people say "improved" they usually mean "adding more stuff". More isn't necessarily better.