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HN guidelines: > If the title contains a gratuitous number or number + adjective, we'd appreciate it if you'd crop it. E.g. translate "10 Ways To Do X" to "How
by jph00 3y ago
HN guidelines:
> If the title contains a gratuitous number or number + adjective, we'd appreciate it if you'd crop it. E.g. translate "10 Ways To Do X" to "How To Do X," and "14 Amazing Ys" to "Ys." Exception: when the number is meaningful, e.g. "The 5 Platonic Solids." Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.
The post title is "Fuck You, Show Me The Prompt", but the HN title is "Show Me The Prompt". The removal of "Fuck You, " has significantly changed the title IMO, and is a form of editorialization. Did the HN mods do this, or was it submitted in this form?
- mloncode 3y agoHi Jeremy, Hamel here. I submitted this blog post, and definitely did not submit it in this form. One of the defining features of this blog post was the F word. I'm also curious about what happened
- robgibbons 3y agoAs the submitter, you should be able to edit the automated change.
- hamelsmu 3y agoI looked at my submissions page and it does not allow me to edit the submission title, sadly. It looks like that option goes away after some time? I emailed the HN mods/help to see if they could correct this. Hopefully they will be able to help.
- kingforaday 3y agoSince the article discusses interception and rewriting prompts, I find this entertaining. If your statement is true, hopefully others will enjoy the irony as I did.
- winwang 3y agoTriple agree. I am also curious about how HN handles (or wants to handle) "profanity"/"taboos".
- jph00 3y agoTo clarify -- I don't mean this as a criticism. If HN wants to censor swearing, that's fine; but it probably should be mentioned in the guidelines in that case.
- dang 3y agoI changed it because "Fuck you, show me the prompt" is baity. We don't have a problem with profanity (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20profanity&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...) - I'm sure we've restored more "fuck"s in titles over the years than we've removed. We have a problem with linkbait, though, as the guideline you quoted indicates. Btw, there's another issue. We put the OP in the second-chance pool (explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), meaning it would get a guaranteed placement on HN's front page. That's already such a steroid shot that the post can do without a jacked title.
- unlog 3y agoimho, just to let you know, I think the original title, more than being baity, it clearly describes a growing sentiment when using the never ending list of AI tools. The prompt is important and not being able to see it, we cant tell if could be improved, and can't test the same prompt on different models. My perception is that the original title is more acurrate. Anyway, thanks!
- dang 3y agoI'm sure that's true! The problem is that the linkbait effect is going to take precedence over the way in which the title is accurate.
- CRConrad 3y agoNope, that was a bad decision IMO. As "kingforaday" points out (in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39391466 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39391466), you've -- self-referential irony, in this context? -- fucked with the headline that would prompt more or less artificial intelligences to click on the post.