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I've got about a million things I'd like to delve into if such a group existed(let's call it a realist monastery?) The key though is to avoid becoming a cult.
by mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
I've got about a million things I'd like to delve into if such a group existed(let's call it a realist monastery?)
The key though is to avoid becoming a cult.
- xanderlewis 3y agoCults presumably need leaders, and there wouldn’t be one. It would be kind of like a church though. But we worship pure knowledge and learning.
- anigbrowl 3y agoWe could call it...a university.
- theendisney 3y agoSure but since we know everything we know will be wrong in 500-1000 years we might as well register it as a church complete with creation myths. :)
- xanderlewis 3y agoHey, Euclid's ideas from 2000+ years ago are still going strong. I doubt much of what we know today will turn out to be wrong. Maybe our abstractions will turn out to have been naive or suboptimal, but at least they're demonstrably predictive. They're not just quackery or mysticism.
- theendisney 3y agoThings dont have to be wrong to be considered wrong :)
- xanderlewis 3y agoWell… in subjects like mathematics they kind of do, don’t they? There’s not much room for opinion on what’s true and what isn’t. Of course, how something is done or the language used to describe it is always up for debate. You did say ‘wrong’, though, not ‘considered wrong’.
- theendisney 3y agoThere are no negatieve quanta and there are no negatieve qualities. It would be hilarious to suggest there would be products of the two. You have 3 baskets with 5 apples each, you remove 7 apples from each basket, remove 5 baskets and you have -2 baskets with -2 apples each thus therefore you have 4 apples left all without the involvement of trees, like Jezus! Yeah, i can see people laugh at that.
- xanderlewis 3y agoI knew someone would say this. Have a think about whether universities really achieve what I’m describing.
- anigbrowl 3y agoIt's kinda like how church attendees aren't always upstanding moral individuals.
- xanderlewis 3y agoNot really. Universities barely even pretend to be ‘churches of learning’ — at least anymore. Going to university, for the vast majority of students these days, is more an exercise in CV-building than self-development and learning.
- samus 3y agoIn any group there are people that are more talented, more persuasive and/or have more initiative than others. These people will naturally become the group's leaders. This can only be avoided in groups which don't have to make on decisions or conduct activities.