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I knew from the headline this was about my beloved Flipper Zero. It is absolutely a scapegoat. There's nothing magical about it, and it doesn't do anything tha

by 2024throwaway 3y ago

I knew from the headline this was about my beloved Flipper Zero. It is absolutely a scapegoat. There's nothing magical about it, and it doesn't do anything that can't be done with other devices.

jgrahamc 3y ago
What do you love about it? I have one and I've only used it very occasionally (e.g. https://blog.jgc.org/2024/02/repairing-sort-of-dyson-fan-remote.html https://blog.jgc.org/2024/02/repairing-sort-of-dyson-fan-rem...). I did make a backup of the NFC card that I use to charge my car because it's super useful to have a duplicate, although even that I barely use because I'd need to carry the Flipper Zero around with me.
- 2024throwaway 3y ago
  Cloned various remote controls (treadmill, ceiling fan, floor fan) into one interface. Also the article isn't wrong, it's cute!
  - jgrahamc 3y ago
    Are these all infrared? Because I've done that and it's handy, but I could also have done that with a universal remote.
    - 2024throwaway 3y ago
      Only the floor fan is infrared. The rest are radio.
  - wil421 3y ago
    Or just get a few smart home products, connect your devices, and automate everything from you phone. Easier than carrying around your Flipper Zero at home.
    - 2024throwaway 3y ago
      "Replace your ceiling fan and treadmill" is certainly not easier than having a small device sitting on my desk.
      - wil421 3y ago
        Why on earth would you do that? An IR blaster costs $25 and will connect to Homebirdge so you have it in Apple Home (or Android whatever). I made 2 dehumidifiers and 2 floor fans “smart” by buying the cheapest possible smart plugs on Amazon, an Amazon branded smart plug cost me $1 during a sale. BroadLink RM4 Mini IR Universal Remote Control, Smart Home Automation Wi-Fi Infrared Blaster https://a.co/d/8GnOVRU https://a.co/d/8GnOVRU
        2024throwaway 3y ago
        That covers the floor fan. Now I need a radio blaster to control the ceiling fan and treadmill. So two extra devices, plus having to set up new automation integrations. This all sounds WAY more complicated than just cloning the remotes like I've done. Would it be more flexible/powerful? Absolutely. Do I need any of that? Absolutely not.
        wil421 3y ago
        Then you pay $15 more for the IR/RF blaster combo and a $35 raspberry pi 3. If you can copy an image to an SD card you can install homebridge (or home assistant). You already saved money over the $169 cost of a flipper zero and your fans/treadmill can come over whenever you enter the room or at a certain time of day. If you can play with a flipper zero you can setup automation.
        2024throwaway 3y ago
        I honestly don't know what point you are trying to make. Of course I can set up automation. I have Home Assistant running in my house already. I also happen to own a Flipper that does a great job at controlling these devices. Why would I introduce complexity where simplicity is working great? I'm done with this conversation, I'd say it's been fun, but..
abnry 3y ago
From what I understand, it is magical in the sense that it makes everything easy to do, even for people without much knowledge.
- ghostpepper 3y ago
  It makes some things magically easy to do, but stealing cars is not one of them.
  - Reason077 3y ago
    Depends very much on the car. Do you own a Hyundai or Kia?
    - Astraco 3y ago
      Maybe we should ban Hyundais and Kias until they fix their security holes. Just an idea about banning things
    - hnav 3y ago
      the whole debacle with hyundai/kia is that they shipped cars where you can physically start it without electronics
      - Reason077 3y ago
        There’s an electronic attack too. This apparently affects many late-model Hyundai/Kia vehicles up to 2023 or so. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/17lksic/increase_in_ioniq_5_thefts_uk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/17lksic/increase_in...

I knew from the headline this was about my beloved Flipper Zero. It is absolutely a scapegoat. There's nothing magical about it, and it doesn't do anything that can't be done with other devices.

jgrahamc 3y ago

What do you love about it? I have one and I've only used it very occasionally (e.g. https://blog.jgc.org/2024/02/repairing-sort-of-dyson-fan-remote.html https://blog.jgc.org/2024/02/repairing-sort-of-dyson-fan-rem...). I did make a backup of the NFC card that I use to charge my car because it's super useful to have a duplicate, although even that I barely use because I'd need to carry the Flipper Zero around with me.

2024throwaway 3y ago
Cloned various remote controls (treadmill, ceiling fan, floor fan) into one interface. Also the article isn't wrong, it's cute!
- jgrahamc 3y ago
  Are these all infrared? Because I've done that and it's handy, but I could also have done that with a universal remote.
  - 2024throwaway 3y ago
    Only the floor fan is infrared. The rest are radio.
- wil421 3y ago
  Or just get a few smart home products, connect your devices, and automate everything from you phone. Easier than carrying around your Flipper Zero at home.
  - 2024throwaway 3y ago
    "Replace your ceiling fan and treadmill" is certainly not easier than having a small device sitting on my desk.
    - wil421 3y ago
      Why on earth would you do that? An IR blaster costs $25 and will connect to Homebirdge so you have it in Apple Home (or Android whatever). I made 2 dehumidifiers and 2 floor fans “smart” by buying the cheapest possible smart plugs on Amazon, an Amazon branded smart plug cost me $1 during a sale. BroadLink RM4 Mini IR Universal Remote Control, Smart Home Automation Wi-Fi Infrared Blaster https://a.co/d/8GnOVRU https://a.co/d/8GnOVRU
      - 2024throwaway 3y ago
        That covers the floor fan. Now I need a radio blaster to control the ceiling fan and treadmill. So two extra devices, plus having to set up new automation integrations. This all sounds WAY more complicated than just cloning the remotes like I've done. Would it be more flexible/powerful? Absolutely. Do I need any of that? Absolutely not.
        wil421 3y ago
        Then you pay $15 more for the IR/RF blaster combo and a $35 raspberry pi 3. If you can copy an image to an SD card you can install homebridge (or home assistant). You already saved money over the $169 cost of a flipper zero and your fans/treadmill can come over whenever you enter the room or at a certain time of day. If you can play with a flipper zero you can setup automation.
        2024throwaway 3y ago
        I honestly don't know what point you are trying to make. Of course I can set up automation. I have Home Assistant running in my house already. I also happen to own a Flipper that does a great job at controlling these devices. Why would I introduce complexity where simplicity is working great? I'm done with this conversation, I'd say it's been fun, but..

abnry 3y ago

From what I understand, it is magical in the sense that it makes everything easy to do, even for people without much knowledge.

ghostpepper 3y ago
It makes some things magically easy to do, but stealing cars is not one of them.
- Reason077 3y ago
  Depends very much on the car. Do you own a Hyundai or Kia?
  - Astraco 3y ago
    Maybe we should ban Hyundais and Kias until they fix their security holes. Just an idea about banning things
  - hnav 3y ago
    the whole debacle with hyundai/kia is that they shipped cars where you can physically start it without electronics
    - Reason077 3y ago
      There’s an electronic attack too. This apparently affects many late-model Hyundai/Kia vehicles up to 2023 or so. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/17lksic/increase_in_ioniq_5_thefts_uk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/17lksic/increase_in...