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Five grand is insane.

causal 3y ago
And probably what most end up paying, or close to it. What I'm still trying to understand is: what is the use case that Apple thought people would pay that much for? Are people walking around Apple HQ in these things because they are indispensable for some purpose the rest of us have yet to figure out?
- Keep3893 3y ago
  It is for software developers and early adopters. It is small investment for entering into new form factor. Google Glasses had the same problem. In a few years there may be tons of apps. And apple will drop gimmicks like external displays.
  - causal 3y ago
    Yeah maybe, though VR app stores have been around for a decade with still no sign of that killer app.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    Oh wow, there'll be as many apps as we have now for Glass?
elchief 3y ago
I mean, it's less than the original macintosh (which would be 7k today)
- pirate787 3y ago
  That's my thought as well. The price is very fair considering all the tech in it, and historically we paid a lot more for less. My crappy 1997 Fujitsu laptop was $3k in today's dollars.
  - timeon 3y ago
    > My crappy 1997 Fujitsu laptop was $3k in today's dollars. I bet it was more useful.
- AlexandrB 3y ago
  That's fine if you're selling a niche product: > Sales were strong at its initial release on January 24, 1984, at $2,495 (equivalent to $7,000 in 2022), and reached 70,000 units on May 3, 1984. I think Apple wants to sell more than 70,000 of these things though. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    The Vision Pro had more than double that number in the first 10 days of preordering. Estimates are Apple expects to produce ~500k units, I don't know if they'll really sell that many though, the popularity is waning quite quickly.
- shrubble 3y ago
  Not really a fair comparison in that the original Macintosh was competing against systems that were in the same ballpark of pricing. There weren't equivalently specced machines that were 1/7th the price.
GoldenMonkey 3y ago
exactly why, I did not complete checkout. sticker shock.
monkmartinez 3y ago
This is the most relevant comment. I have the Meta Quest 2 running on a very powerful workstation[0] and its fun for an hour or two every month or so. I get VR sickness sometimes which is really not fun at all. Its actually really fucking terrible. I can fish all day (Ocean or Lake) and not get sick, but these VR headsets can be debilitating. [0] I was a Macbook Pro user for many, many years until they started soldering everything to the darn MB. Apple is user hostile, imo, to the point that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I strictly buy used workstations (Think Dell 7820's, SuperMicro, etc.) that are a generation or two behind the latest and greatest. TCO is just phenomenal here AND I can upgrade them or downgrade them very easily. A chromebook with internet access is all I need to have my own private, GPU enabled, "datacenter" when I am away from the house. I love my setup and its so gdamn practical that "justification" is not a verb in my vocabulary.
AmVess 3y ago
Apple is going to learn that the hard way. Meta has huge return rates on their headsets, which is a big reason for their 30 billion loses on it so far. At $3500, people will play with these Apple units and return them. I can't guess what their return rate will be in terms of numbers, but I know it will be shocking.

And probably what most end up paying, or close to it. What I'm still trying to understand is: what is the use case that Apple thought people would pay that much for? Are people walking around Apple HQ in these things because they are indispensable for some purpose the rest of us have yet to figure out?

Keep3893 3y ago
It is for software developers and early adopters. It is small investment for entering into new form factor. Google Glasses had the same problem. In a few years there may be tons of apps. And apple will drop gimmicks like external displays.
- causal 3y ago
  Yeah maybe, though VR app stores have been around for a decade with still no sign of that killer app.
- OJFord 3y ago
  Oh wow, there'll be as many apps as we have now for Glass?

elchief 3y ago

I mean, it's less than the original macintosh (which would be 7k today)

pirate787 3y ago
That's my thought as well. The price is very fair considering all the tech in it, and historically we paid a lot more for less. My crappy 1997 Fujitsu laptop was $3k in today's dollars.
- timeon 3y ago
  > My crappy 1997 Fujitsu laptop was $3k in today's dollars. I bet it was more useful.
AlexandrB 3y ago
That's fine if you're selling a niche product: > Sales were strong at its initial release on January 24, 1984, at $2,495 (equivalent to $7,000 in 2022), and reached 70,000 units on May 3, 1984. I think Apple wants to sell more than 70,000 of these things though. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K
- zamadatix 3y ago
  The Vision Pro had more than double that number in the first 10 days of preordering. Estimates are Apple expects to produce ~500k units, I don't know if they'll really sell that many though, the popularity is waning quite quickly.
shrubble 3y ago
Not really a fair comparison in that the original Macintosh was competing against systems that were in the same ballpark of pricing. There weren't equivalently specced machines that were 1/7th the price.

GoldenMonkey 3y ago

exactly why, I did not complete checkout. sticker shock.

monkmartinez 3y ago

This is the most relevant comment. I have the Meta Quest 2 running on a very powerful workstation[0] and its fun for an hour or two every month or so. I get VR sickness sometimes which is really not fun at all. Its actually really fucking terrible. I can fish all day (Ocean or Lake) and not get sick, but these VR headsets can be debilitating. [0] I was a Macbook Pro user for many, many years until they started soldering everything to the darn MB. Apple is user hostile, imo, to the point that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I strictly buy used workstations (Think Dell 7820's, SuperMicro, etc.) that are a generation or two behind the latest and greatest. TCO is just phenomenal here AND I can upgrade them or downgrade them very easily. A chromebook with internet access is all I need to have my own private, GPU enabled, "datacenter" when I am away from the house. I love my setup and its so gdamn practical that "justification" is not a verb in my vocabulary.

AmVess 3y ago

Apple is going to learn that the hard way. Meta has huge return rates on their headsets, which is a big reason for their 30 billion loses on it so far. At $3500, people will play with these Apple units and return them. I can't guess what their return rate will be in terms of numbers, but I know it will be shocking.