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I understod the transition as following. Google Bard to Google Gemini is what they call Gemini 1.0. Gemini consists of Gemini Nano, Gemini Pro, & Gemini Ultra

I understod the transition as following. Google Bard to Google Gemini is what they call Gemini 1.0. Gemini consists of Gemini Nano, Gemini Pro, & Gemini Ultra. Gemini Nano is for embedded and portable devices I guess? The free version of Gemini (gemini.google.com) is Gemini Pro. The paid version, called Gemini Advanced is using Gemini Ultra. What we're reading now is about Gemini Pro version 1.0 switching to version 1.5 as of today.

meowface 3y ago
That just made my head spin even more. (Like, I get it, but it's just a very tortuous naming system.) The free version is called Pro, Gemini Advanced is actually Gemini Ultra, the less powerful version upgraded to the more powerful model but the more powerful version is on the less powerful model. People make fun of OpenAI for not using product names and just calling it "GPT" but at least it's straightforward: 2, 3, 3.5, 4. (On the API side it's a little more complicated since there's "turbo" and "instruct" but that isn't exposed to users, and turbo is basically the default.)
- kweingar 3y ago
  But you don't pay for GPT-4, you pay for a product called ChatGPT Plus, which allows you to write 40 messages to GPT-4 within a three-hour time window, after which you need to switch to 3.5 in the menu.
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code51 3y ago
but if Vertex AI is using Gemini Ultra, then why makersuite (aisuite now? hmmm) showing only "Gemini 1.0 Pro 001" (001: a version inside a version) and why have makersuite/aisuite in the first place, if Vertex AI is the center for all things AI? and why aitestkitchen? I'm seeing only Gemini 1.0 Pro on Vertex AI. So even if I enabled Google Gemini Advanced (Ultra?), enabled Vertex AI API access, I have to first be blessed by Google to access advanced APIs. It seems paying for their service doesn't mean anything to Google at this point. As a developer, you have to jump through hoops first.
- Alifatisk 3y ago
  I think this answers why you can't see Ultra. "Gemini 1.0 Ultra, our most sophisticated and capable model for complex tasks, is now generally available on Vertex AI for customers via allowlist." https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/gemini-on-vertex-ai-expands https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/g...
growt 3y ago
It was probably not a wise choise to give the model itself and the product the same name: "Gemini Advanced is using Gemini Ultra". Also: "The free version ... is Gemini Pro" - is not what you usually see out there.

meowface 3y ago

That just made my head spin even more. (Like, I get it, but it's just a very tortuous naming system.) The free version is called Pro, Gemini Advanced is actually Gemini Ultra, the less powerful version upgraded to the more powerful model but the more powerful version is on the less powerful model. People make fun of OpenAI for not using product names and just calling it "GPT" but at least it's straightforward: 2, 3, 3.5, 4. (On the API side it's a little more complicated since there's "turbo" and "instruct" but that isn't exposed to users, and turbo is basically the default.)

kweingar 3y ago
But you don't pay for GPT-4, you pay for a product called ChatGPT Plus, which allows you to write 40 messages to GPT-4 within a three-hour time window, after which you need to switch to 3.5 in the menu.

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code51 3y ago

but if Vertex AI is using Gemini Ultra, then why makersuite (aisuite now? hmmm) showing only "Gemini 1.0 Pro 001" (001: a version inside a version) and why have makersuite/aisuite in the first place, if Vertex AI is the center for all things AI? and why aitestkitchen? I'm seeing only Gemini 1.0 Pro on Vertex AI. So even if I enabled Google Gemini Advanced (Ultra?), enabled Vertex AI API access, I have to first be blessed by Google to access advanced APIs. It seems paying for their service doesn't mean anything to Google at this point. As a developer, you have to jump through hoops first.

Alifatisk 3y ago
I think this answers why you can't see Ultra. "Gemini 1.0 Ultra, our most sophisticated and capable model for complex tasks, is now generally available on Vertex AI for customers via allowlist." https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/gemini-on-vertex-ai-expands https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/g...

growt 3y ago

It was probably not a wise choise to give the model itself and the product the same name: "Gemini Advanced is using Gemini Ultra". Also: "The free version ... is Gemini Pro" - is not what you usually see out there.