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Google is like a nervous and insecure engineer — blowing their value by rushing the narrative and releasing too much too confusingly fast.

sho_hn 3y ago
When OpenAI raced through 3/3.5/4 it was "this team ships" and excitement. This cargo-cult hate train is getting tiresome. Half the comments on anything Google-related are like this now, and it doesn't add anything to the conversation.
- epiccoleman 3y ago
  The difference, though, as someone who really doesn't have a particular dog in this fight, is that I can go use GPT-4 right now, and see for myself whether it's as exciting as the marketing materials say.
  - sho_hn 3y ago
    When OpenAI launched GPT-4, API access was initially behind a waitlist. And they released multiple demo stills of LMM capacilities on launch day that for months were in a limited partner program before they became generally available only 7 months later. I also want the shiny immediately when I read about it, but I also know when I am acting entitled and don't go spam comment threads about it. But really, mostly I mean this: It's fine to criticize things, but when half a dozen people have already raised a point in a thread, we don't need more dupes. It really changes signal-to-noise.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  Gemini Ultra was announced two months ago. It just launched in the last week. It literally is still the featured post on the AI section of their blog, above this announcement. https://blog.google/technology/ai/ https://blog.google/technology/ai/ There’s “this team ships” and there’s “ok maybe wait until at least a few people have used your product before you change it all”.
  - sho_hn 3y ago
    OpenAI announced GPT-4 image input in mid-March 2023 and made it generally available on the API in November 2023. Google announced a fancy model two months early and released it in the promised timeframe. Seems par for the course.
    - mynameisvlad 3y ago
      Did OpenAI then announce GPT-5 two weeks after launching GPT-4? No, of course they didn’t. And you’re comparing one specific feature (image input) and equating it to a whole model’s release date. Maybe compare apples to apples next time. People pointing out release/announcement burnout is a reasonable thing; people in general can only deal with the “next new thing” with some breaks to process everything.
      - sho_hn 3y ago
        I made the comparison because both companies demonstrated advanced/extended abilities (model size, image input) and shipped it delayed.
- moralestapia 3y ago
  >"this team ships" Because they actually shipped ... (!)
  - moralestapia 3y ago
    ... and they literally just did it again. https://openai.com/sora https://openai.com/sora
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sho_hn 3y ago

When OpenAI raced through 3/3.5/4 it was "this team ships" and excitement. This cargo-cult hate train is getting tiresome. Half the comments on anything Google-related are like this now, and it doesn't add anything to the conversation.

epiccoleman 3y ago
The difference, though, as someone who really doesn't have a particular dog in this fight, is that I can go use GPT-4 right now, and see for myself whether it's as exciting as the marketing materials say.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  When OpenAI launched GPT-4, API access was initially behind a waitlist. And they released multiple demo stills of LMM capacilities on launch day that for months were in a limited partner program before they became generally available only 7 months later. I also want the shiny immediately when I read about it, but I also know when I am acting entitled and don't go spam comment threads about it. But really, mostly I mean this: It's fine to criticize things, but when half a dozen people have already raised a point in a thread, we don't need more dupes. It really changes signal-to-noise.
mynameisvlad 3y ago
Gemini Ultra was announced two months ago. It just launched in the last week. It literally is still the featured post on the AI section of their blog, above this announcement. https://blog.google/technology/ai/ https://blog.google/technology/ai/ There’s “this team ships” and there’s “ok maybe wait until at least a few people have used your product before you change it all”.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  OpenAI announced GPT-4 image input in mid-March 2023 and made it generally available on the API in November 2023. Google announced a fancy model two months early and released it in the promised timeframe. Seems par for the course.
  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    Did OpenAI then announce GPT-5 two weeks after launching GPT-4? No, of course they didn’t. And you’re comparing one specific feature (image input) and equating it to a whole model’s release date. Maybe compare apples to apples next time. People pointing out release/announcement burnout is a reasonable thing; people in general can only deal with the “next new thing” with some breaks to process everything.
    - sho_hn 3y ago
      I made the comparison because both companies demonstrated advanced/extended abilities (model size, image input) and shipped it delayed.
moralestapia 3y ago
>"this team ships" Because they actually shipped ... (!)
- moralestapia 3y ago
  ... and they literally just did it again. https://openai.com/sora https://openai.com/sora

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