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This is marketing for Veracode which is crap by the way. You can’t assess for risk without knowing anything about the environment, compensating controls and bu

This is marketing for Veracode which is crap by the way. You can’t assess for risk without knowing anything about the environment, compensating controls and business logic. Veracode is a check-the-box enterprise compliance tool that reduces engineering productivity and corporate profitability. Yes, vulnerability management is an important problem but Veracode is not the solution not even close.

redrove 3y ago
My org almost bought Veracode for $1mil/yr. I'm happy they backed out last minute cause it looked like shit.
- cassianoleal 3y ago
  I have used Veracode. Its SCA scan picks up fewer CVEs than whatever open-source tool the GitlabCI uses.
Spivak 3y ago
Are there any good enterprise check-the-box compliance tools? Because having good security doesn't obviate needing to box-check for our certifications.
- candiddevmike 3y ago
  Even worse, sometimes the good tools don't check the box because they lack some pointless certification or the CISO "doesn't recognize the name".
- PeterisP 3y ago
  I have seen SonarQube do somewhat okay in this role; you may need some configuring for its detections to set what matters for you, but that applies for everything, doesn't it?
pryelluw 3y ago
The OP is clearly a puppet account that just spams links from that website (which itself is mostly IT spam). Wish there was a way to hide submissions from certain posters …
HideousKojima 3y ago
About two years ago I was assigned to investigate several security tools, Veracode was one of them. For every tool I was able to get an actual demo/trial of, I tested them with a simple piece of code: 10 lines of C# that contained hardcoded credentials and a blatantly obvious SQL injection vulnerability. None of the tools I tried were able to detect both (though some would detect one or the other). IIRC (I tried a lot of different tools and wasn't able to get demos of all of them so it's hard to remember which did what) Veracode choked on any code using C# 8+ features like the simplified using blocks, which my 10 lines of vulnerable code used. My recommendation to my manager and others was that for the price being asked for most of these tools, we could instead hire two or more devs to do nothing but code review and manually search for vulnerabilities and do a better job. Instead they went with Veracode, and the first thing I got got after we implemented it was three emails for false positives that didn't properly identify the code file and line number where the supposed vulnerabilities occurred, meaning I had to waste several hours communicating with the team that ran the scan to figure out where this supposedly occured. I specifically remember two of the false positives were about my use of Serilog, saying my code was vulnerable to log injection. Even though Serilog isn't vulnerable to that if you use structured logging (which my code was). I even did several log injections and verified that they didn't actually work. Edit: Looking at the reports it generated, I see it also failed to detect usage of the actually highly vulnerable BinaryFormatter class which I have seen used several times by our offshore teams. That's something that could be detected with a simple string search and they didn't detect it.
- MattPalmer1086 3y ago
  No idea how good Veracode is in practice. It's been considered in at least 3 places I've worked and never been selected. I would disagree that you can replace scanning tools with just human review though. You need both. Static analysis and software composition analysis are good at flagging possible problems, but there's a lot of noise. You ideally want an application security engineer to be reviewing the code and scan results. And also conducting threat modelling with the devs, so you prevent problems even earlier.
  - HideousKojima 3y ago

redrove 3y ago

My org almost bought Veracode for $1mil/yr. I'm happy they backed out last minute cause it looked like shit.

cassianoleal 3y ago
I have used Veracode. Its SCA scan picks up fewer CVEs than whatever open-source tool the GitlabCI uses.

Spivak 3y ago

Are there any good enterprise check-the-box compliance tools? Because having good security doesn't obviate needing to box-check for our certifications.

candiddevmike 3y ago
Even worse, sometimes the good tools don't check the box because they lack some pointless certification or the CISO "doesn't recognize the name".
PeterisP 3y ago
I have seen SonarQube do somewhat okay in this role; you may need some configuring for its detections to set what matters for you, but that applies for everything, doesn't it?

pryelluw 3y ago

The OP is clearly a puppet account that just spams links from that website (which itself is mostly IT spam). Wish there was a way to hide submissions from certain posters …

HideousKojima 3y ago

About two years ago I was assigned to investigate several security tools, Veracode was one of them. For every tool I was able to get an actual demo/trial of, I tested them with a simple piece of code: 10 lines of C# that contained hardcoded credentials and a blatantly obvious SQL injection vulnerability. None of the tools I tried were able to detect both (though some would detect one or the other). IIRC (I tried a lot of different tools and wasn't able to get demos of all of them so it's hard to remember which did what) Veracode choked on any code using C# 8+ features like the simplified using blocks, which my 10 lines of vulnerable code used. My recommendation to my manager and others was that for the price being asked for most of these tools, we could instead hire two or more devs to do nothing but code review and manually search for vulnerabilities and do a better job. Instead they went with Veracode, and the first thing I got got after we implemented it was three emails for false positives that didn't properly identify the code file and line number where the supposed vulnerabilities occurred, meaning I had to waste several hours communicating with the team that ran the scan to figure out where this supposedly occured. I specifically remember two of the false positives were about my use of Serilog, saying my code was vulnerable to log injection. Even though Serilog isn't vulnerable to that if you use structured logging (which my code was). I even did several log injections and verified that they didn't actually work. Edit: Looking at the reports it generated, I see it also failed to detect usage of the actually highly vulnerable BinaryFormatter class which I have seen used several times by our offshore teams. That's something that could be detected with a simple string search and they didn't detect it.

MattPalmer1086 3y ago
No idea how good Veracode is in practice. It's been considered in at least 3 places I've worked and never been selected. I would disagree that you can replace scanning tools with just human review though. You need both. Static analysis and software composition analysis are good at flagging possible problems, but there's a lot of noise. You ideally want an application security engineer to be reviewing the code and scan results. And also conducting threat modelling with the devs, so you prevent problems even earlier.
- HideousKojima 3y ago