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A lot of people are saying it's frustrating and doesn't do what it claims... Is that not a legal reason to return something?

Yizahi 3y ago
It depends. Basically as long as you fulfill corporation's criteria for return you should not have any moral issues with it. For example for digital items there can be zero possible negatives in using returns. The problem arises with physical items - some corporations repackage returned items and sell them as new. So people buy a dress to actually wear it (so the dress was fine and the size was fine) and then return, or buy electronics to use and then return are harming future buyers. Indirectly of course. Again, it is not incorrect to return electronics in general. I've did it once too, I bought a wifi range extender and after observing that it simply didn't work at all in my setup, I've returned it. At the same time there are people buying TVs just to watch some sport event and then returning it. Are we doing essentially the same thing? Technically yes. But for me personally if feels differently.
- macNchz 3y ago
  I’m frequently the “future customer”, and do not feel harmed. I’m happy for people to return electronics, I buy them “open box” for a great discount! Most recently, I got an OLED TV for nearly $1k off, in absolutely flawless condition, with just a few hours powered on according to its diagnostic menu. If it’s not perfect, it can be returned once again. That said, I don’t typically bother with Apple’s refurb store (which I believe sells returned items?), the discount is not typically as good as other retailers, and they don’t have them in store like Microcenter or Best Buy.
- thrill 3y ago
  I wouldn't have any "moral issue" with returning something simply because I woke up bored with the item and neither should anyone else.
- throw0101b 3y ago
  > It depends. Basically as long as you fulfill corporation's criteria for return you should not have any moral issues with it. Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry wants to return something for "spite": * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0MXJAQhmo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0MXJAQhmo * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wig_Master https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wig_Master * https://seinfeld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wig_Master https://seinfeld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wig_Master

Yizahi 3y ago

It depends. Basically as long as you fulfill corporation's criteria for return you should not have any moral issues with it. For example for digital items there can be zero possible negatives in using returns. The problem arises with physical items - some corporations repackage returned items and sell them as new. So people buy a dress to actually wear it (so the dress was fine and the size was fine) and then return, or buy electronics to use and then return are harming future buyers. Indirectly of course. Again, it is not incorrect to return electronics in general. I've did it once too, I bought a wifi range extender and after observing that it simply didn't work at all in my setup, I've returned it. At the same time there are people buying TVs just to watch some sport event and then returning it. Are we doing essentially the same thing? Technically yes. But for me personally if feels differently.

macNchz 3y ago
I’m frequently the “future customer”, and do not feel harmed. I’m happy for people to return electronics, I buy them “open box” for a great discount! Most recently, I got an OLED TV for nearly $1k off, in absolutely flawless condition, with just a few hours powered on according to its diagnostic menu. If it’s not perfect, it can be returned once again. That said, I don’t typically bother with Apple’s refurb store (which I believe sells returned items?), the discount is not typically as good as other retailers, and they don’t have them in store like Microcenter or Best Buy.
thrill 3y ago
I wouldn't have any "moral issue" with returning something simply because I woke up bored with the item and neither should anyone else.
throw0101b 3y ago
> It depends. Basically as long as you fulfill corporation's criteria for return you should not have any moral issues with it. Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry wants to return something for "spite": * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0MXJAQhmo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0MXJAQhmo * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wig_Master https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wig_Master * https://seinfeld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wig_Master https://seinfeld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wig_Master