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EncroChat

63 points by max_ 3y ago

who-shot-jr 3y ago
If anyone is interested, the BBC made a podcast about EncroChat - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09dj358 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09dj358
- chedabob 3y ago
  Was covered a little on Darknet Diaries too: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/105/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/105/
vodou 3y ago
In Sweden, the EncroChat infiltration led to more than 1000 years of prison sentences.
amarant 3y ago
Huh, I didn't know encrochat was a legit encrypted chat at first. Someone told me once it was created as a ruse by the European police, made from the start as a way to take down criminal organisations. Guess I shouldn't believe everything I'm told! TIL
- bitwize 3y ago
  They may have confused it with ANOM, which was a government honeypot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANOM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANOM
  - amarant 3y ago
    Ah yeah they did, I recall that calculator app thing from their tale as well. That's a pretty well made honeypot I must say!
    - bitwize 3y ago
      Something tells me that criminal organizations are going to start retaining IT teams specifically to vet platforms like this. Organized crime probably already has significant IT; I seem to recall South American drug cartels using mainframes in like the 90s.
      - morkalork 3y ago
        Forget mainframes, how about their own parallel telecom network with over 500 miles of coverage: https://www.npr.org/2011/12/09/143442365/mexico-busts-drug-cartels-private-phone-networks https://www.npr.org/2011/12/09/143442365/mexico-busts-drug-c... And that was over 10 years ago..
        amarant 3y ago
        They've done a lot of interesting stuff over the years. My personal favourite is the submarine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine
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- RCitronsBroker 3y ago
  there was one called SKY ECC in Europe that, similarly to ANOM, was a honeypot from the get go.
bloqs 3y ago
Features heavily on this double episode of 24rs In Police Custody https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/the-home-county-cartel-part-two/umc.cmc.tgner2ilcmzxj7fikasnq0qc?showId=umc.cmc.6k2zt2bgrejul00sy3i384tdn https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/the-home-county-cartel-part-...
johnisgood 3y ago
> He was identified from a photo he had sent via Encrochat showing his hands holding a block of Blue Stilton. Police were able to identify him via his fingerprints in the photo. Nice.
Seanambers 3y ago
This comes to mind : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tMXFsWBgB4&ab_channel=Channel4Documentaries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tMXFsWBgB4&ab_channel=Chann... A British tv series about the police and here they come across a criminal organization which uses Encro to smuggle drugs into the country. Well worth a watch ; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13433048/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13433048/
acqbu 3y ago
Also relevant: https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/

63 points by max_ 3y ago

If anyone is interested, the BBC made a podcast about EncroChat - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09dj358 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09dj358

chedabob 3y ago
Was covered a little on Darknet Diaries too: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/105/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/105/

vodou 3y ago

In Sweden, the EncroChat infiltration led to more than 1000 years of prison sentences.

amarant 3y ago

Huh, I didn't know encrochat was a legit encrypted chat at first. Someone told me once it was created as a ruse by the European police, made from the start as a way to take down criminal organisations. Guess I shouldn't believe everything I'm told! TIL

bitwize 3y ago
They may have confused it with ANOM, which was a government honeypot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANOM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANOM
- amarant 3y ago
  Ah yeah they did, I recall that calculator app thing from their tale as well. That's a pretty well made honeypot I must say!
  - bitwize 3y ago
    Something tells me that criminal organizations are going to start retaining IT teams specifically to vet platforms like this. Organized crime probably already has significant IT; I seem to recall South American drug cartels using mainframes in like the 90s.
    - morkalork 3y ago
      Forget mainframes, how about their own parallel telecom network with over 500 miles of coverage: https://www.npr.org/2011/12/09/143442365/mexico-busts-drug-cartels-private-phone-networks https://www.npr.org/2011/12/09/143442365/mexico-busts-drug-c... And that was over 10 years ago..
      - amarant 3y ago
        They've done a lot of interesting stuff over the years. My personal favourite is the submarine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine
        deleted 3y ago
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RCitronsBroker 3y ago
there was one called SKY ECC in Europe that, similarly to ANOM, was a honeypot from the get go.

bloqs 3y ago

Features heavily on this double episode of 24rs In Police Custody https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/the-home-county-cartel-part-two/umc.cmc.tgner2ilcmzxj7fikasnq0qc?showId=umc.cmc.6k2zt2bgrejul00sy3i384tdn https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/the-home-county-cartel-part-...

johnisgood 3y ago

> He was identified from a photo he had sent via Encrochat showing his hands holding a block of Blue Stilton. Police were able to identify him via his fingerprints in the photo. Nice.

Seanambers 3y ago

This comes to mind : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tMXFsWBgB4&ab_channel=Channel4Documentaries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tMXFsWBgB4&ab_channel=Chann... A British tv series about the police and here they come across a criminal organization which uses Encro to smuggle drugs into the country. Well worth a watch ; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13433048/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13433048/

acqbu 3y ago

Also relevant: https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/