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> without nationalizing them Why would this option be ignored? We need some production sites to be operated at a loss, because they have to be maintained the
by p4bl0 3y ago
> without nationalizing them
Why would this option be ignored?
We need some production sites to be operated at a loss, because they have to be maintained the whole year while they may be of use only a few weeks or days per year — but those times we cannot do without them.
No market will ever be able to make that happen, those have ti be publicly owned. Why, oh why on earth would be decide that the benefits should be privatized while the losses have to stay public? Especially when the result of privatization and market policy is that electricity is more expensive for everyone in the end.
- jnsaff2 3y agoSubsidies are being paid for dispatchable power generation in the name of national interests and grid stability. This is already been done. Full nationalization would remove incentives for build out of new generation and renewables. > Especially when the result of privatization and market policy is that electricity is more expensive for everyone in the end. Do you have any references to point to that would claim that a nationalized power system would be cheaper than market? Seems like a very bold claim.
- p4bl0 3y agoIt's really not a bold claim. It may seems like so if you chose to believe in the idealized market model but that does not exist in real life. As for the references, I linked to them (it's in French however) in another comment here. Also, all of the progress and innovations and building of new generations and renewables and everything until recently has been done without a market, at least in France, which probably has one of the best electricity system in the world.
- ExoticPearTree 3y ago>> without nationalizing them >Why would this option be ignored? Because nothing nationalized works.
- p4bl0 3y agoThis is a biased and plainly wrong claim that has absolutely no substance.
- ExoticPearTree 3y agoDo you have an example of a successful business run by the government?
- p4bl0 3y agoI wouldn't call electricity (and energy in general) a business. The goal is not to make money but to provide a service. But yes, electricity in France before it was privatized was largely successful. The same could be said for the trains and railways for example. In both cases privatization made the service largely worse than before while prices have been going up and up.