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How many people bought AVP just to make YouTube videos? Anyway, the world's best tech influencers couldn't rescue AVP, it is a certified DUD and I expect Apple

How many people bought AVP just to make YouTube videos? Anyway, the world's best tech influencers couldn't rescue AVP, it is a certified DUD and I expect Apple and HN to suppress discussion of it. Cook will try to turn the spotlight elsewhere. He's got good company, Musk seems to also have a certified flop with the Cyber truck. Lots of people keep talking about how awesome future revs of AVP will surely be...not seeing it, Apple can't afford the reputation hit of iterating a product like this in public...people expect Apple to get it right early on at this point. Meta can afford to iterate in public on VR because they have no reputation in hardware. I predict Apple will try to wipe the internet of AVP talk and then quietly kill it like they did with the "Apple Car" Can't wait for the HN cope on AVP

saagarjha 3y ago
Apple Car has never shipped, though.
Traubenfuchs 3y ago
The positive expectations for AVP form the hacker news crowd baffle me. At this point I consider it proven that VR headsets strapped to our head are not the future, unless they become as comfortable as normal glasses (forever technically impossible), provide visual fidelity on par with modern high DPI screens (currently impossible?) and have perfect pass through (actually possible, maybe).
- freetanga 3y ago
  I would add that “until there is 100% certainty that having an image so close to your eyes all day will not harm your sight.” I am no anti-vaxxer or flat earther, but old enough to remember that in the 50s the American Doctors vouched that cigarettes were good for your health, and later plastics were hailed as wonderful, and corn syrup was considered harmless, and eggs were both the devils food and a miracle food. So much money changing hands that I tend to trust very little certifications on health impact.
freedomben 3y ago
I don't think Apple is in any danger of a "reputation hit", at least with anybody who matters. The type of fans who buy AVP will parrot whatever Apple's marketing department decides to release, and they'll add their own apologetics on top. For the general public, they don't even know about AVP yet so they won't care. I can't think of any other company on the planet that has an army of defenders who will defend every policy/move and even claim altruism, regardless of how self-serving it is for Apple. If you're waiting to see people turn on Apple, it's gonna be a very, very long while yet.
jaggs 3y ago
Not sure why you're getting voted down. Unless it's because you also annoyed the Musk crew. They can be quite...well active.
- bondarchuk 3y ago
  Because "can't wait for the cope" (and "my opinion will be surpressed") is low-quality and frankly stupid conversation that I don't come here for.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
  The Apple crew can be plenty active too. Generally if I post some criticism of Apple it gets a steady supply of downvotes even when I'm being reasonable. Especially if posted when mostly Americans are online.

saagarjha 3y ago

Apple Car has never shipped, though.

Traubenfuchs 3y ago

The positive expectations for AVP form the hacker news crowd baffle me. At this point I consider it proven that VR headsets strapped to our head are not the future, unless they become as comfortable as normal glasses (forever technically impossible), provide visual fidelity on par with modern high DPI screens (currently impossible?) and have perfect pass through (actually possible, maybe).

freetanga 3y ago
I would add that “until there is 100% certainty that having an image so close to your eyes all day will not harm your sight.” I am no anti-vaxxer or flat earther, but old enough to remember that in the 50s the American Doctors vouched that cigarettes were good for your health, and later plastics were hailed as wonderful, and corn syrup was considered harmless, and eggs were both the devils food and a miracle food. So much money changing hands that I tend to trust very little certifications on health impact.

freedomben 3y ago

I don't think Apple is in any danger of a "reputation hit", at least with anybody who matters. The type of fans who buy AVP will parrot whatever Apple's marketing department decides to release, and they'll add their own apologetics on top. For the general public, they don't even know about AVP yet so they won't care. I can't think of any other company on the planet that has an army of defenders who will defend every policy/move and even claim altruism, regardless of how self-serving it is for Apple. If you're waiting to see people turn on Apple, it's gonna be a very, very long while yet.

jaggs 3y ago

Not sure why you're getting voted down. Unless it's because you also annoyed the Musk crew. They can be quite...well active.

bondarchuk 3y ago
Because "can't wait for the cope" (and "my opinion will be surpressed") is low-quality and frankly stupid conversation that I don't come here for.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
The Apple crew can be plenty active too. Generally if I post some criticism of Apple it gets a steady supply of downvotes even when I'm being reasonable. Especially if posted when mostly Americans are online.