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> I'm pretty sure it's the people. Glass house?

• Nevermark 3y ago
  > I'm pretty sure it's the people. > Glass house? A sympathetic reading of that might be: “I’m pretty sure it’s the a-collaborative go-it-alone culture of many of the practitioners”. Lisp’s famous strength at enabling coding styles tailored to every specific domain, may also be its weakness with regard to low friction code sharing & adoption. That, and the distance between Lisp’s high dynamic flexibility vs. more restricted imperative or functional coding styles that are easier to optimize at the low level, may encourage more bespoke development practices.
  • lispm 3y ago
    Is that something you had heard or guessed? Did you attend a Lisp conference and talked to the people, where they were coming from (companies, universities, research labs, ...) and in what domain they were working on? Let's say, ACL2, a theorem prover written in Common Lisp. Unless what Mr. Urban tells you about Lisp users, they have a github repository. They have user/developer meetings. They even presented their stuff at Lisp conferences (I have attended one myself, where I saw a talk about it), wrote books about it, published hundreds of research reports, ... The user group shares > one million lines of Lisp code ( https://github.com/acl2/acl2/tree/master/books https://github.com/acl2/acl2/tree/master/books ), with many more lines of code developed by users. https://github.com/acl2/acl2/ https://github.com/acl2/acl2/ Workshops: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/moore/acl2/workshops.html https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/moore/acl2/workshops.html How does that fit into your theory and what Mr. Urban wants us to believe? Here we have a shared large Lisp code base used at companies like Intel, AMD, ARM, ... where people collaborate over the Internet... how does that fit into your "go-it-alone culture of many of the practitioners" theory?