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Related: is the price map of McDonald's then McDonald's's price map?

by dataflow 3y ago

ace2358 3y ago
Why not McDonald’s’
- dataflow 3y ago
  Because it didn't occur to me that might be a possibility :-) is that what it would be?
  - trealira 3y ago
    It is a regular, but not universal, occurrence for people to elide the extra possessive 's when the word already ends in s. For example, although adding a possessive suffix 's to the nane "Jordan" would result in "Jordan's," adding it to "James" could result in "James'". There's an apostrophe written at the end, but it's pronounced the same way as "James." I said it's not universal because I still know people who would say "James's" (with an extra syllable at the end) in everyday speech anyway. I don't know to what extent this varies by dialect. It's also elided when a plural already ends in s (and I think this is universal, but I haven't looked it up). For example, "the doctor's computer" (the computer of one doctor) sounds the same as "the doctors' computers" (the computers owned by the doctors). The apostrophe is written on the other side of the s, but it also sounds the same. Note that not all plurals end in s, e.g. man/men, woman/women, goose/geese, etc., and in these cases you still add the s, e.g. "the geese's beaks".
    - gooseyman 3y ago
      James’ = AP style James’s = Chicago Style https://grammarbrain.com/james-or-jamess/ https://grammarbrain.com/james-or-jamess/
- thanatos519 3y ago
  McDonalds' Baker's dozen -> Bakers' dozen
  - 867-5309 3y ago
    baker's dozens
- imp0cat 3y ago
  McDonald'ses. :D Or just omit "the" - We have many McDonald's here in our town.
notso411 3y ago
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8organicbits 3y ago
Companies often have press guides or branding guides that clarify this. For Macca, an old guide covers this (Trademark Usage / Page 3). https://issuu.com/lukaszkulakowski/docs/002725 https://issuu.com/lukaszkulakowski/docs/002725
- dataflow 3y ago
  IIUC, that seems to be saying "don't write sentences in this structure" rather than "here's how it would look if you did write it". (Though it would seem strange for a manual to dictate the grammar for its own name.)
  - 8organicbits 3y ago
    Following the example of Big Mac sandwiches (not Big Macs) I believe you'd write McDonald's restaurants' (not McDonald's'). I.E. always keep the trademarked word as-is, add sandwich or other nouns where needed to make the grammar work. I think the confusion in this thread and elsewhere makes it clear why companies release brand guides.
- wlll 3y ago
  Yeah, but companies don't get to decide how language is used. Apple can try all they want to demand that people say shit like "Use iPad to do it" or "Experience iPad" but that's just what they want and they can't stop people using English without their toxic marketing BS. Saying "Use an iPad to do it" is completely acceptable language and more in line with existing language no-matter what Apple marketing says.
EasyMark 3y ago
McDonalds'

Related: is the price map of McDonald's then McDonald's's price map?

ace2358 3y ago

Why not McDonald’s’

dataflow 3y ago
Because it didn't occur to me that might be a possibility :-) is that what it would be?
- trealira 3y ago
  It is a regular, but not universal, occurrence for people to elide the extra possessive 's when the word already ends in s. For example, although adding a possessive suffix 's to the nane "Jordan" would result in "Jordan's," adding it to "James" could result in "James'". There's an apostrophe written at the end, but it's pronounced the same way as "James." I said it's not universal because I still know people who would say "James's" (with an extra syllable at the end) in everyday speech anyway. I don't know to what extent this varies by dialect. It's also elided when a plural already ends in s (and I think this is universal, but I haven't looked it up). For example, "the doctor's computer" (the computer of one doctor) sounds the same as "the doctors' computers" (the computers owned by the doctors). The apostrophe is written on the other side of the s, but it also sounds the same. Note that not all plurals end in s, e.g. man/men, woman/women, goose/geese, etc., and in these cases you still add the s, e.g. "the geese's beaks".
  - gooseyman 3y ago
    James’ = AP style James’s = Chicago Style https://grammarbrain.com/james-or-jamess/ https://grammarbrain.com/james-or-jamess/
thanatos519 3y ago
McDonalds' Baker's dozen -> Bakers' dozen
- 867-5309 3y ago
  baker's dozens
imp0cat 3y ago
McDonald'ses. :D Or just omit "the" - We have many McDonald's here in our town.

notso411 3y ago

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8organicbits 3y ago

Companies often have press guides or branding guides that clarify this. For Macca, an old guide covers this (Trademark Usage / Page 3). https://issuu.com/lukaszkulakowski/docs/002725 https://issuu.com/lukaszkulakowski/docs/002725

dataflow 3y ago
IIUC, that seems to be saying "don't write sentences in this structure" rather than "here's how it would look if you did write it". (Though it would seem strange for a manual to dictate the grammar for its own name.)
- 8organicbits 3y ago
  Following the example of Big Mac sandwiches (not Big Macs) I believe you'd write McDonald's restaurants' (not McDonald's'). I.E. always keep the trademarked word as-is, add sandwich or other nouns where needed to make the grammar work. I think the confusion in this thread and elsewhere makes it clear why companies release brand guides.
wlll 3y ago
Yeah, but companies don't get to decide how language is used. Apple can try all they want to demand that people say shit like "Use iPad to do it" or "Experience iPad" but that's just what they want and they can't stop people using English without their toxic marketing BS. Saying "Use an iPad to do it" is completely acceptable language and more in line with existing language no-matter what Apple marketing says.

EasyMark 3y ago

McDonalds'