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This is a standard notice in almost every vehicle's manual

defrost 3y ago
I checked with local mechanical engineers that build their own outdoor work vehicles. They've never heard of such a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YxZfiX2uE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YxZfiX2uE
- mardifoufs 3y ago
  Really? I don't blame them, no one reads that part of the manual. But it's basically word for word what's on Ford's manual. It's basically stuff that no one actually does though. https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    But then the difference is: The Ford has no problems with tar, and the Cybertruck is rusting.
- thebruce87m 3y ago
  They’ve never read the manual of any vehicles they own? This is a common CYA weasel statement.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Pretty unlikely, most of the vehicles would have been acquired third or fourth hand sans manuals - see link for details. All that aside, myself and many people I've known for many years have a combined several hundred years experience with a wide variety of vehicles going back to the 1930s - the corrosion issues with the CyberTruck as described are unusual - few people expect birdshit to cause permanent marking unless it's washed off immediately - common experience dictates that washing it off once a month (or less often even) will do just fine.
    - thebruce87m 3y ago
      I’m not talking about the cybertruck corrosion, I’m talking about the standard statements about paint care in manuals. I’m sure your extended network with its hundreds of years of experience has come across that.
bamboozled 3y ago
Even if that was true, the outcome isn't that your car would rust if you don't do it, you might get some stained paint, but that's about it. I wash my car once a year, and it has no visible rust on the body and it's about 15 years old.
- mardifoufs 3y ago
  Here you go[0], again the notice is still common even if as you said it would be a disaster if the vehicule actually rusts without a crazy amount of cleaning that no one would actually do. And this is likely not the stainless itself rusting but environmental contamination (rust from railings etc). I'm not saying that because of the vehicule, but based purely on how this grade of stainless usually behaves. Stainless can rust, but this is pretty fast and the stain is a bit weird. Unless Tesla lied about the stainless steel grade, which is another can of worms. Now I'm a bit curious, I might ask the actual rust formation experts I work with to confirm (I work on non destructive testing devices which involves a lot of... rust haha. Though I'm not specialized in that specific type of detection). I might be wrong on this, but if if I am it would really be a huge blunder from Tesla. >https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...
  - bamboozled 3y ago
    I know that is in the manual of ever car and I know from experience that parking under trees etc isn't great for a car, but as I said, I've never had my car "rust" because of it and the cars I'm driving generally aren't considered to be "tuff trucks".
    - mardifoufs 3y ago
      Oh I completely agree. If it turns out to be actual body rust, yes that's a disaster and them putting the notice in the manual doesn't make it any better.

I checked with local mechanical engineers that build their own outdoor work vehicles. They've never heard of such a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YxZfiX2uE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YxZfiX2uE

mardifoufs 3y ago
Really? I don't blame them, no one reads that part of the manual. But it's basically word for word what's on Ford's manual. It's basically stuff that no one actually does though. https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...
- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  But then the difference is: The Ford has no problems with tar, and the Cybertruck is rusting.
thebruce87m 3y ago
They’ve never read the manual of any vehicles they own? This is a common CYA weasel statement.
- defrost 3y ago
  Pretty unlikely, most of the vehicles would have been acquired third or fourth hand sans manuals - see link for details. All that aside, myself and many people I've known for many years have a combined several hundred years experience with a wide variety of vehicles going back to the 1930s - the corrosion issues with the CyberTruck as described are unusual - few people expect birdshit to cause permanent marking unless it's washed off immediately - common experience dictates that washing it off once a month (or less often even) will do just fine.
  - thebruce87m 3y ago
    I’m not talking about the cybertruck corrosion, I’m talking about the standard statements about paint care in manuals. I’m sure your extended network with its hundreds of years of experience has come across that.

bamboozled 3y ago

Even if that was true, the outcome isn't that your car would rust if you don't do it, you might get some stained paint, but that's about it. I wash my car once a year, and it has no visible rust on the body and it's about 15 years old.

mardifoufs 3y ago
Here you go[0], again the notice is still common even if as you said it would be a disaster if the vehicule actually rusts without a crazy amount of cleaning that no one would actually do. And this is likely not the stainless itself rusting but environmental contamination (rust from railings etc). I'm not saying that because of the vehicule, but based purely on how this grade of stainless usually behaves. Stainless can rust, but this is pretty fast and the stain is a bit weird. Unless Tesla lied about the stainless steel grade, which is another can of worms. Now I'm a bit curious, I might ask the actual rust formation experts I work with to confirm (I work on non destructive testing devices which involves a lot of... rust haha. Though I'm not specialized in that specific type of detection). I might be wrong on this, but if if I am it would really be a huge blunder from Tesla. >https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...
- bamboozled 3y ago
  I know that is in the manual of ever car and I know from experience that parking under trees etc isn't great for a car, but as I said, I've never had my car "rust" because of it and the cars I'm driving generally aren't considered to be "tuff trucks".
  - mardifoufs 3y ago
    Oh I completely agree. If it turns out to be actual body rust, yes that's a disaster and them putting the notice in the manual doesn't make it any better.