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Do you have sources that confirm that this was the case? Otherwise, none of the counter proof that you demanded would be needed, saving everybody some research

by fcsp 3y ago

Do you have sources that confirm that this was the case? Otherwise, none of the counter proof that you demanded would be needed, saving everybody some research time

lijok 3y ago
Woah, let me be clear, I am not demanding anything, nor are we looking for “counter proofs”, this is a simple discussion on some interesting AWS history and potentially myths surrounding it GP and myself are in agreement that the widely understood history is as I laid it out (given they said it was a myth). Happy to link to some info on the history of AWS, but its not the point of this thread I think
maximinus_thrax 3y ago
https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/02/andy-jassys-brief-history-of-the-genesis-of-aws/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/02/andy-jassys-brief-history-... It's also on the Wikipedia page, with references to the appropriate articles/talks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Amazon_Web_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Amazon_Web_Service... This is not some secret or hidden piece of knowledge requiring extensive research..
- lupire 3y ago
  That says that the products were inspired by Amazon architecture, not externalization of Amazon's actual existing retail websites tech. EC2 was sold to customers long before it was functional and secure enough for Amazon itself to use.
  - maximinus_thrax 3y ago
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-amazon-exposed-its-guts-the-history-of-awss-ec2/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-amazon-exposed-its-guts-th... > EC2 was developed first and foremost for Amazon's internal infrastructure. It started out as an idea in the head of Chris Pinkham, who worked as an engineer in charge of Amazon's global infrastructure in the early 2000s. > "It struck us in the infrastructure engineering organisation that we really needed to decentralise the infrastructure by providing services to development teams," Pinkham says. "That was a big motivating factor." Someone here is lying. I really couldn't care less who's right or wrong, I'm just using publicly available information.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      Actually, they can be both true: it could have been developed for Amazon's internal use, but sold to the public before the target internal customer was sold on adopting it.
      - maximinus_thrax 3y ago
        > Actually, they can be both true This is probably the case for 99% of all arguments I witnessed in my career.

by fcsp 3y ago

Do you have sources that confirm that this was the case? Otherwise, none of the counter proof that you demanded would be needed, saving everybody some research time

lijok 3y ago

Woah, let me be clear, I am not demanding anything, nor are we looking for “counter proofs”, this is a simple discussion on some interesting AWS history and potentially myths surrounding it GP and myself are in agreement that the widely understood history is as I laid it out (given they said it was a myth). Happy to link to some info on the history of AWS, but its not the point of this thread I think

maximinus_thrax 3y ago

https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/02/andy-jassys-brief-history-of-the-genesis-of-aws/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/02/andy-jassys-brief-history-... It's also on the Wikipedia page, with references to the appropriate articles/talks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Amazon_Web_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Amazon_Web_Service... This is not some secret or hidden piece of knowledge requiring extensive research..

lupire 3y ago
That says that the products were inspired by Amazon architecture, not externalization of Amazon's actual existing retail websites tech. EC2 was sold to customers long before it was functional and secure enough for Amazon itself to use.
- maximinus_thrax 3y ago
  https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-amazon-exposed-its-guts-the-history-of-awss-ec2/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-amazon-exposed-its-guts-th... > EC2 was developed first and foremost for Amazon's internal infrastructure. It started out as an idea in the head of Chris Pinkham, who worked as an engineer in charge of Amazon's global infrastructure in the early 2000s. > "It struck us in the infrastructure engineering organisation that we really needed to decentralise the infrastructure by providing services to development teams," Pinkham says. "That was a big motivating factor." Someone here is lying. I really couldn't care less who's right or wrong, I'm just using publicly available information.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    Actually, they can be both true: it could have been developed for Amazon's internal use, but sold to the public before the target internal customer was sold on adopting it.
    - maximinus_thrax 3y ago
      > Actually, they can be both true This is probably the case for 99% of all arguments I witnessed in my career.