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> Looks like apple silicon are currently the best hardware for running linux I wonder if this effort to run Linux on apple silicon will continue if snapdragon

> Looks like apple silicon are currently the best hardware for running linux I wonder if this effort to run Linux on apple silicon will continue if snapdragon X laptops become mainstream.

seabrookmx 3y ago
I think it will. One of the main issues with desktop linux is still broad hardware support. Random crap like fingerprint readers or Wi-Fi cards still don't work on certain machines. By having a very constrained set of hardware options, it makes it a lot easier to support. The snapdragon devices are also starting way behind.. both the Surface X and Lenovo X13S snapdragon devices exist today but Linux support isn't close to Asahi.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > the Surface X and Lenovo X13S snapdragon devices exist today but Linux support isn't close to Asahi. Is that necessarily true? When the X13S Snapdragon released I seem to remember it shipping with first-party Linux drivers for almost everything. Same goes for the Surface X actually. Now, both of those devices definitely don't get the same attention Macs do, but they did ship day-and-date with decent Linux support. For example, the Adreno GPU that Qualcomm uses has upstream Mesa support for Vulkan and OpenGL. In many senses, Asahi isn't close to the vendor support those devices recieved.
  - seabrookmx 3y ago
    > When the X13S Snapdragon released I seem to remember it shipping with first-party Linux drivers for almost everything Nope. 2 years on there's still no webcam support for this device [1], though it is in a lot better place than it was on launch (not being able to boot at all on mainline). The Surface Pro X still seems to be a long way off [2]. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/17tw6ag/anyone_using_the_arm_powered_x13s_now_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/17tw6ag/anyo... [2]: https://github.com/linux-surface/surface-pro-x/issues/7 https://github.com/linux-surface/surface-pro-x/issues/7

> Looks like apple silicon are currently the best hardware for running linux I wonder if this effort to run Linux on apple silicon will continue if snapdragon X laptops become mainstream.

seabrookmx 3y ago

I think it will. One of the main issues with desktop linux is still broad hardware support. Random crap like fingerprint readers or Wi-Fi cards still don't work on certain machines. By having a very constrained set of hardware options, it makes it a lot easier to support. The snapdragon devices are also starting way behind.. both the Surface X and Lenovo X13S snapdragon devices exist today but Linux support isn't close to Asahi.

smoldesu 3y ago
> the Surface X and Lenovo X13S snapdragon devices exist today but Linux support isn't close to Asahi. Is that necessarily true? When the X13S Snapdragon released I seem to remember it shipping with first-party Linux drivers for almost everything. Same goes for the Surface X actually. Now, both of those devices definitely don't get the same attention Macs do, but they did ship day-and-date with decent Linux support. For example, the Adreno GPU that Qualcomm uses has upstream Mesa support for Vulkan and OpenGL. In many senses, Asahi isn't close to the vendor support those devices recieved.
- seabrookmx 3y ago
  > When the X13S Snapdragon released I seem to remember it shipping with first-party Linux drivers for almost everything Nope. 2 years on there's still no webcam support for this device [1], though it is in a lot better place than it was on launch (not being able to boot at all on mainline). The Surface Pro X still seems to be a long way off [2]. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/17tw6ag/anyone_using_the_arm_powered_x13s_now_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/17tw6ag/anyo... [2]: https://github.com/linux-surface/surface-pro-x/issues/7 https://github.com/linux-surface/surface-pro-x/issues/7