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Or... atheists like quality for other reasons? Saying "some people associate quality workmanship with their belief in God" doesn't mean: 1. all religious folk

Or... atheists like quality for other reasons? Saying "some people associate quality workmanship with their belief in God" doesn't mean: 1. all religious folks care about quality workmanship 2. all people who care about quality workmanship are religious

dangus 3y ago
I agree with you but that’s not really what all these parent commenters are strongly implying. They’re giving religion way more credit than it’s due.
- quesera 3y ago
  Religion is a reason for many great things that people do. Food quality, perhaps. But art, music, architecture, definitely. Not all religious people do great things, not all great things are done for religious reasons. Your logic directionality is failing you badly here. It is possible to say nice things about someone without implying condemnation of another.
  - dangus 3y ago
    Keep in mind that I’m responding to people that are using the exact same directional logic, the only difference is that their directional logic is pro-religion. > If you are building something for whatever god you happen to believe in, you are going to want to build something of high quality to honor that. That’s a very broad generalization and pro-religion statement. I provided a number of counter-examples of products whose religious ownership hasn’t motivated them to produce great quality products with ethical practices. I would present the hypothesis that based on the demographics of US citizens that, statistically, most publicly traded companies are likely majority owned by Christian shareholders. After all, a commanding majority of Americans (70%). So this idea that a non-dollars-and-cents higher calling motivating Christian business owners to make better quality products seems like complete bunk. Seems to me that the Christians get to cherry pick one company that focuses on product quality and give credit to religious thought despite the fact that most US companies including the shitty ones that dump toxic chemicals into rivers are also owned by Christians.
    - hyggetrold 3y ago
      Friend, your comment made me laugh out loud. You know nothing about me and my religious/spiritual beliefs. I think you would be quite surprised if you knew what they were. For what it's worth, I am not a Christian and I was not thinking of Christians or "Christian products" in my original comment you quoted.

dangus 3y ago

I agree with you but that’s not really what all these parent commenters are strongly implying. They’re giving religion way more credit than it’s due.

quesera 3y ago
Religion is a reason for many great things that people do. Food quality, perhaps. But art, music, architecture, definitely. Not all religious people do great things, not all great things are done for religious reasons. Your logic directionality is failing you badly here. It is possible to say nice things about someone without implying condemnation of another.
- dangus 3y ago
  Keep in mind that I’m responding to people that are using the exact same directional logic, the only difference is that their directional logic is pro-religion. > If you are building something for whatever god you happen to believe in, you are going to want to build something of high quality to honor that. That’s a very broad generalization and pro-religion statement. I provided a number of counter-examples of products whose religious ownership hasn’t motivated them to produce great quality products with ethical practices. I would present the hypothesis that based on the demographics of US citizens that, statistically, most publicly traded companies are likely majority owned by Christian shareholders. After all, a commanding majority of Americans (70%). So this idea that a non-dollars-and-cents higher calling motivating Christian business owners to make better quality products seems like complete bunk. Seems to me that the Christians get to cherry pick one company that focuses on product quality and give credit to religious thought despite the fact that most US companies including the shitty ones that dump toxic chemicals into rivers are also owned by Christians.
  - hyggetrold 3y ago
    Friend, your comment made me laugh out loud. You know nothing about me and my religious/spiritual beliefs. I think you would be quite surprised if you knew what they were. For what it's worth, I am not a Christian and I was not thinking of Christians or "Christian products" in my original comment you quoted.