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Many businesses limit retention by default, deleting everything older than (e.g.) 30 days unless the user saves them. They do it to limit liability, but perhap
by wolverine876 3y ago
Many businesses limit retention by default, deleting everything older than (e.g.) 30 days unless the user saves them.
They do it to limit liability, but perhaps that should be the law for every business: As part of the responsibility as a custodian of other people's information, you need to minimize retention: Remove PII and other high-risk information asap, extract data needed for the long-term (rather than retaining the entire original record), delete the entire record when it's no longer used (easily determined by how often it's used).
In the networked, electronic era, data becomes much more powerful and control of it becomes much more elusive. That increases our responsibility.
- lazide 3y agoBut then how will we get juicy emails in the press to drag people through the mud, years after someone notices a problem? Think of the clicks man!
- dylan604 3y agoPreserving email is different than anything being discussed here though, and it actually can be a business requirement.
- lazide 3y agoIt's literally the topic we're discussing? Something deleted years ago can't be accidentally leaked or used against you unless someone thought to do so within the 30 day window. That's literally why the '30 day purge' exists to 'limit liability'.
- dylan604 3y agobut some business requirements says you CAN'T delete email because of some regulation is my point. that's specifically aimed at catching the stupid criminals that say things like "please shred all of the incriminating documents before we have to turn them over in discovery". or the emails that gets interrupted in a suspect thread that says "please call me" so that it's specifically not written. we're sort of talking past each other
- lazide 3y agoYou’re talking about regulations and stuff imposed on someone. I’m talking about telling companies to do silly things so we all get more lulz. Yes, we are talking past each other.
- iAMkenough 3y ago> unless the user saves them So there's less junk to sort through when things like this happen. Only the valuable stuff gets saved.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoSOP at the F500s I was at. one was only 30 days, and the other two were quarterly. we'd get emails at the end of quarter that all of our testing instance VMs, emails, and other stuff was getting squashed at the end of the quarter, so save & archive. in hindsight kinda liked the 30 days, it required that we kept meeting notes and other discussion in one place -- no email chains that went back to early last year. it's either in the wiki or it's not, and if it's not then it didn't happen, and we need to discuss.