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Out of Control (1994)

58 points by dannyobrien 3y ago

dannyobrien 3y ago
(Link includes the full text)
- blast 3y ago
  HTML: https://kk.org/outofcontrol/contents.php https://kk.org/outofcontrol/contents.php PDF: https://kk.org/mt-files/books-mt/ooc-mf.pdf https://kk.org/mt-files/books-mt/ooc-mf.pdf
082349872349872 3y ago
The acknowledgements on pp396-397 are a good example of "maximising the fringes"!
- sisyphus_coding 3y ago
  Dumb q but what does this mean?
  - snypher 3y ago
    https://kk.org/newrules/to_maximize_innovation_maximiz/ https://kk.org/newrules/to_maximize_innovation_maximiz/
kangasp 3y ago
Kevin Kelly also wrote What Technology Wants. It has some very interesting ideas, that seep into all other areas.
- kaycebasques 3y ago
  I think I'm gonna binge on his stuff. He seems like a really cool dude. I recall his optimism getting a lot of flak in the late 2010s but he seems to really care and celebrate think deeply about our culture. That techno-optimism garbage was deeply embarrassing and fascist but I think I can get behind Kelly's brand of optimism. Check out "the third culture" article that I just submitted. So much of the stuff he says in passing in that article is still verrrrry relevant today. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39378589 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39378589
solomonb 3y ago
I've had this book on my reading list for a while! Out of Control is referenced heavily in Fred Turner's From Counterculture to Cyberculture.
ngneer 3y ago
This is a good book. Themes therein are as relevant as ever.
jdblair 3y ago
This book was seriously influential to me in 1994 when a friend leant me his hard cover copy. Arguably, Out of Control, Snowcrash, (and a less well known book called Goatwalking) defined my whole early 20s aesthetic and outlook.
- jdblair 3y ago
  My favorite term from the book at the time was "hive mind."
082349872349872 3y ago
Might the title be a reference to Brooks et. al. "Fast Cheap and Out of Control" (1989)? https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/fast-cheap.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/fast-cheap.pdf
- lou1306 3y ago
  Judging from this section in Chapter 3, I guess so :) https://kk.org/mt-files/outofcontrol/ch3-b.html https://kk.org/mt-files/outofcontrol/ch3-b.html

58 points by dannyobrien 3y ago

dannyobrien 3y ago

(Link includes the full text)

blast 3y ago
HTML: https://kk.org/outofcontrol/contents.php https://kk.org/outofcontrol/contents.php PDF: https://kk.org/mt-files/books-mt/ooc-mf.pdf https://kk.org/mt-files/books-mt/ooc-mf.pdf

082349872349872 3y ago

The acknowledgements on pp396-397 are a good example of "maximising the fringes"!

sisyphus_coding 3y ago
Dumb q but what does this mean?
- snypher 3y ago
  https://kk.org/newrules/to_maximize_innovation_maximiz/ https://kk.org/newrules/to_maximize_innovation_maximiz/

kangasp 3y ago

Kevin Kelly also wrote What Technology Wants. It has some very interesting ideas, that seep into all other areas.

kaycebasques 3y ago
I think I'm gonna binge on his stuff. He seems like a really cool dude. I recall his optimism getting a lot of flak in the late 2010s but he seems to really care and celebrate think deeply about our culture. That techno-optimism garbage was deeply embarrassing and fascist but I think I can get behind Kelly's brand of optimism. Check out "the third culture" article that I just submitted. So much of the stuff he says in passing in that article is still verrrrry relevant today. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39378589 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39378589

solomonb 3y ago

I've had this book on my reading list for a while! Out of Control is referenced heavily in Fred Turner's From Counterculture to Cyberculture.

ngneer 3y ago

This is a good book. Themes therein are as relevant as ever.

jdblair 3y ago

This book was seriously influential to me in 1994 when a friend leant me his hard cover copy. Arguably, Out of Control, Snowcrash, (and a less well known book called Goatwalking) defined my whole early 20s aesthetic and outlook.

jdblair 3y ago
My favorite term from the book at the time was "hive mind."

082349872349872 3y ago

Might the title be a reference to Brooks et. al. "Fast Cheap and Out of Control" (1989)? https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/fast-cheap.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/fast-cheap.pdf

lou1306 3y ago
Judging from this section in Chapter 3, I guess so :) https://kk.org/mt-files/outofcontrol/ch3-b.html https://kk.org/mt-files/outofcontrol/ch3-b.html