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This surely is the question. Why not Angie?

sodality2 3y ago
Could be related to the fact that Angie offers 'pro' version: https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/ https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/ From statement: "Instead, I’m starting an alternative project, which is going to be run by developers, and not corporate entities"
- bemusedthrow75 3y ago
  Hm. I guess this consultancy-on-a-paid-version model doesn't bother me (and clearly didn't bother the developer of freenginx while they were paying him). But a double fork can't be good.
  - bklyn11201 3y ago
    I assume USA companies are by far the highest revenue source for Nginx Plus. Both of these forks seem to be based in Russia. How is a USA company supposed to pay either of these vendors for their consulting or Pro versions? How long until F5 submits requests for domain ownership of freenginx.org, and how quickly does Angie get takedown requests for their features that look remarkably similar to Nginx Plus features (e.g., the console)?
    - pests 3y ago
      > features that look remarkably similar to Nginx Plus features (e.g., the console) Its illegal for products in the same space to have similar features?
      - bklyn11201 3y ago
        Please compare the two and let us know if you think "similar" is the right word.
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        arg98 3y ago
        Compare what? Console/dashboard is open sourced by F5, so anybody can fork: https://github.com/nginxinc/nginx-plus-dashboard https://github.com/nginxinc/nginx-plus-dashboard
        pests 3y ago
        Thanks, I was trying to find the license for the nginx console but thought it might just be part of the plus offering only.
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    > clearly didn't bother the developer of freenginx while they were paying him Clearly it did, so much so that he gave up all that pay.
    - bemusedthrow75 3y ago
      That is not why he gave up all the pay, is it? F5 closed the Moscow office.
      - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        You are right, my mistake.
WhyNotHugo 3y ago
The main criticism is that it requires signing a CLA, so they might switch to a non-free license any day now.
- aleksi 3y ago
  But anyone, including you and me, could re-license MIT/BSD-licensed open-source project under a different license, including non-free. CLA does not affect that.

Could be related to the fact that Angie offers 'pro' version: https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/ https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/ From statement: "Instead, I’m starting an alternative project, which is going to be run by developers, and not corporate entities"

bemusedthrow75 3y ago
Hm. I guess this consultancy-on-a-paid-version model doesn't bother me (and clearly didn't bother the developer of freenginx while they were paying him). But a double fork can't be good.
- bklyn11201 3y ago
  I assume USA companies are by far the highest revenue source for Nginx Plus. Both of these forks seem to be based in Russia. How is a USA company supposed to pay either of these vendors for their consulting or Pro versions? How long until F5 submits requests for domain ownership of freenginx.org, and how quickly does Angie get takedown requests for their features that look remarkably similar to Nginx Plus features (e.g., the console)?
  - pests 3y ago
    > features that look remarkably similar to Nginx Plus features (e.g., the console) Its illegal for products in the same space to have similar features?
    - bklyn11201 3y ago
      Please compare the two and let us know if you think "similar" is the right word.
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - arg98 3y ago
        Compare what? Console/dashboard is open sourced by F5, so anybody can fork: https://github.com/nginxinc/nginx-plus-dashboard https://github.com/nginxinc/nginx-plus-dashboard
        pests 3y ago
        Thanks, I was trying to find the license for the nginx console but thought it might just be part of the plus offering only.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  > clearly didn't bother the developer of freenginx while they were paying him Clearly it did, so much so that he gave up all that pay.
  - bemusedthrow75 3y ago
    That is not why he gave up all the pay, is it? F5 closed the Moscow office.
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      You are right, my mistake.

WhyNotHugo 3y ago

The main criticism is that it requires signing a CLA, so they might switch to a non-free license any day now.

aleksi 3y ago
But anyone, including you and me, could re-license MIT/BSD-licensed open-source project under a different license, including non-free. CLA does not affect that.