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Is called "rage-fork" perhaps this. So proposed title: nginx dev rage-forks over security disagreement with boss company But then perhaps he also has every rig

by larodi 3y ago

Is called "rage-fork" perhaps this. So proposed title: nginx dev rage-forks over security disagreement with boss company But then perhaps he also has every right to do it, even though AFAIR the original author was somebody else.

water-your-self 3y ago
Why does the identity of the original author matter here?
- allanrbo 3y ago
  In my opinion the original author did a really good job, so I found it interesting to know where and whether he might continue his vision. Edit: I see now from the hg history that Igor hasn't been coding on Nginx for a decade actually.
  - larodi 3y ago
    Indeed, the original work done by single dev (Igor) to get the nginx project running was very impressive timewise, and as a volume of code produced. I can't really recall why he left, but with other comments around the thread implies such forks have happened more than once. As a sidenote I believe the people who start projects that they themselves run in excellent manner, should be praised, supported, noted and there is nothing more for their identities to matter. It very much matters some particular person with weird nick burntsushi created this wonderful tool rg, and kept growing it for long time. Besides, I can bet for projects such as Cosmopolitan C, it absolutely matters that jart started/did it.
allanrbo 3y ago
Igor, the original author, left in 2022 according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sysoev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sysoev
Kluggy 3y ago
Rage-fork doesn’t show up anywhere in their announcement, nor does it read like they’re doing something specifically out of rage. Everyone has a right to forking the project. Only time will tell if they get critical mass of developers to keep it going.
- larodi 3y ago
  Of course it is not mentioned, it is implied. The term "rage-fork" is a made up one, not sure whether anyone else uses it in this form. But if you imply that there was no rage in the decision to fork - well that's something to have doubts about and it very much seems the move was done with some significant emotion in it. although somewhat concealed in the original post.
- bklyn11201 3y ago
  Surely "Nginx" is trademarked, copyrighted, etc. A cool and collected fork would do some basic work to avoid trivial lawsuits, consider the other forks already in the space, and write up a bit on how this fork will be different from the others.
  - Thoreandan 3y ago
    A quick glance at USPTO and https://www.f5.com/company/policies/trademarks https://www.f5.com/company/policies/trademarks confirms this.
    - mike_d 3y ago
      Russia has laws on the books that allow them to exempt domestic operations from international IP enforcement and to nullify any damages if the entity has a connection to an "unfriendly state."
- MiguelHudnandez 3y ago
  It's worth pointing out that Maxim Dounin is, by himself, likely critical mass for Nginx. Since he started in 2011 he is by far the most active contributor to the codebase.

by larodi 3y ago

water-your-self 3y ago

Why does the identity of the original author matter here?

allanrbo 3y ago
In my opinion the original author did a really good job, so I found it interesting to know where and whether he might continue his vision. Edit: I see now from the hg history that Igor hasn't been coding on Nginx for a decade actually.
- larodi 3y ago
  Indeed, the original work done by single dev (Igor) to get the nginx project running was very impressive timewise, and as a volume of code produced. I can't really recall why he left, but with other comments around the thread implies such forks have happened more than once. As a sidenote I believe the people who start projects that they themselves run in excellent manner, should be praised, supported, noted and there is nothing more for their identities to matter. It very much matters some particular person with weird nick burntsushi created this wonderful tool rg, and kept growing it for long time. Besides, I can bet for projects such as Cosmopolitan C, it absolutely matters that jart started/did it.

allanrbo 3y ago

Igor, the original author, left in 2022 according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sysoev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sysoev

Kluggy 3y ago

Rage-fork doesn’t show up anywhere in their announcement, nor does it read like they’re doing something specifically out of rage. Everyone has a right to forking the project. Only time will tell if they get critical mass of developers to keep it going.

larodi 3y ago
Of course it is not mentioned, it is implied. The term "rage-fork" is a made up one, not sure whether anyone else uses it in this form. But if you imply that there was no rage in the decision to fork - well that's something to have doubts about and it very much seems the move was done with some significant emotion in it. although somewhat concealed in the original post.
bklyn11201 3y ago
Surely "Nginx" is trademarked, copyrighted, etc. A cool and collected fork would do some basic work to avoid trivial lawsuits, consider the other forks already in the space, and write up a bit on how this fork will be different from the others.
- Thoreandan 3y ago
  A quick glance at USPTO and https://www.f5.com/company/policies/trademarks https://www.f5.com/company/policies/trademarks confirms this.
  - mike_d 3y ago
    Russia has laws on the books that allow them to exempt domestic operations from international IP enforcement and to nullify any damages if the entity has a connection to an "unfriendly state."
MiguelHudnandez 3y ago
It's worth pointing out that Maxim Dounin is, by himself, likely critical mass for Nginx. Since he started in 2011 he is by far the most active contributor to the codebase.