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>"Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not?" Which doesn't need to

>"Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not?" Which doesn't need to be anything about a "CIA psyop". I believe the above is (or could very realistically be) the case, and I could very well answer "yes" to that, without any "CIA psyop" need be involved. In other words, that people from the Biden administration and PR team, working to get Swift to endorse him publicly, and perhaps do a few stunts with him (with or without an exchange of money or favors involved), for the obvious election marketing reasons. That's not the same as a conspiracy in the "illuminati" or "CIA is behind this" sense (as it's made to be), nor is it the same as just "Swift having and voicing an opinion".

082349872349872 3y ago
> people from the Biden administration and PR team, working to get Swift to endorse him publicly sounds like you're making "covert" do a lot of work here; as far as I have seen that effort is better described by "overt"
- coldtea 3y ago
  I'm not making it do anything. In fact, my opening comment reads: "What conspiracy? If anything, it's overt" It's the TFA that presents belief in that as if people believe in a "conspiracy".
  - uberman 3y ago
    Who/what is the TFA?
    - 082349872349872 3y ago
      The Fine Article: https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_021424/ https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthP... > 34.Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not? see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39373632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39373632 I guess we could spin this as "18% of people polled have an idiosyncratic definition of covert", but given the context, I find understanding of the usual def'n to be most likely.
uberman 3y ago
You might not like a political party soliciting a celebrity endorsement but that does not make it a conspiracy and that is not this conspiracy. This conspiracy is being floated and propagated by people like: Paraphrased... Fox News host Jesse Watters: "Swift is a Pentagon PsyOp Agent" GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy: "The Super Bowl is rigged to boost the profile of Taylor Swift ahead of her plans to endorse President Biden" OAN News: "Swift is a “Massive Super Bowl Psy-op” a brainwashing campaign designed to indoctrinate citizens to an elite agenda and away from religion." Try a google search for "Super Bowl Psy-op" if you have any doubts.

082349872349872 3y ago

> people from the Biden administration and PR team, working to get Swift to endorse him publicly sounds like you're making "covert" do a lot of work here; as far as I have seen that effort is better described by "overt"

coldtea 3y ago
I'm not making it do anything. In fact, my opening comment reads: "What conspiracy? If anything, it's overt" It's the TFA that presents belief in that as if people believe in a "conspiracy".
- uberman 3y ago
  Who/what is the TFA?
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    The Fine Article: https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_021424/ https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthP... > 34.Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not? see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39373632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39373632 I guess we could spin this as "18% of people polled have an idiosyncratic definition of covert", but given the context, I find understanding of the usual def'n to be most likely.

uberman 3y ago

You might not like a political party soliciting a celebrity endorsement but that does not make it a conspiracy and that is not this conspiracy. This conspiracy is being floated and propagated by people like: Paraphrased... Fox News host Jesse Watters: "Swift is a Pentagon PsyOp Agent" GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy: "The Super Bowl is rigged to boost the profile of Taylor Swift ahead of her plans to endorse President Biden" OAN News: "Swift is a “Massive Super Bowl Psy-op” a brainwashing campaign designed to indoctrinate citizens to an elite agenda and away from religion." Try a google search for "Super Bowl Psy-op" if you have any doubts.