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An AI inventing cooking recipes could brute force its way into trillions of possible ingredient combinations, without any clue whatsoever on how humans would ac
by mekoka 3y ago
An AI inventing cooking recipes could brute force its way into trillions of possible ingredient combinations, without any clue whatsoever on how humans would actually experience the end result. Most of these "discoveries" would remain untested. If the AI was allowed to patent the untested recipes, a chef that would later work on creating their own original dessert, informed by their own prior experience with some rare ingredients and an intuition that the odd combination of spices could be an unexpected success, but which also happens to be one of the AI's untested combinations, would not be able to claim the actual discovery.
For any of the AI's recipes to be patented, a human would have to try the recipe and assert that it is a thing to behold.
- kjkjadksj 3y agoThis is basically how the drug analog industry works. Machine learning had been used for years before it was cool too. Its not like they ever give the patent to the ML library they loaded in some script though.
- sgift 3y agoThat's what I don't understand: Why would anyone want to try to get a patent for an AI. Let the machine crunch the numbers, test the most promising candidates as your "significant contribution" and patent the result.
- interestica 3y agoParallel construction
- bobthepanda 3y agoRecipes are actually generally not patentable or copyrightable, which is why recipes have the flowery spiel and giant photos in any cookbook or recipe blog.
- nadermx 3y ago"the recipes themselves do not enjoy copyright projection. Lambing,142 F.3d at 434; see also Feist, 499 U.S. at 361 (excluding the factual data—telephone listings—from its consideration of whether a telephone directory is a copyrightable compilation).The list of ingredients is merely a factual statement, and as previously discussed,facts are not copyrightable. Lambing, 142 F.3d at 434. Furthermore, a recipe’s instructions, as functional directions, are statutorily excluded from copyright protection. 17 U.S.C. § 102(b); id"[0] [0] https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/15-3179/15-3179-2015-10-20.html https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/15...
- cycomanic 3y agoWhich just shows the ridiculousness of the patent system. I mean what is the fundamental difference between a cooking recipe and the recipe for a pharmaceutical. I guess cooks just didn't have the same lobby power to get their exception reworked (pharmaceuticals were in many places originally excluded from patents as well)
- interestica 3y agoA song is a recipe using ingredients we all have access to.
- jedmeyers 3y agoAnd thus we usually do not have patents for songs, only copyright protections.
- WrongAssumption 3y agoRecipes are not copyrightable either.
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- cyanydeez 3y agoeh, all that matters is osmeone using an AI. Indistinguishable from magic.