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Why would grade inflation imply less need to take AP classes? That doesn't follow at all. AP tests offer a chance to get college credits early, and many college

Why would grade inflation imply less need to take AP classes? That doesn't follow at all. AP tests offer a chance to get college credits early, and many colleges provide preferential status to students with a number of AP classes. The incentives for taking them remain whether classes are easier or not.

alephnerd 3y ago
> Why would grade inflation imply less need to take AP classes AP Classes act as a GPA and Admissions booster in UC admissions. The traditional scale is 0-4, but if you take AP Classes, your GPA can be modified to a 0-5 scale as long as you pass the exam and/or maintain at least a B average in the class. Anyone with a GPA >4.0 means they took at least 2-3 APs with an A-B average along with an A average in general classes. The fact that the 75th percentile HS GPA at UCR in 2019 is 4.11 compared to it being in the mid 3s in 2012 implies that the student body has changed. In 2010-13 you could get accepted in UCR without having ever taken an AP course - that doesn't happen anymore since 2019 onwards. Heck, in the 2019 freshman class 32% of incoming freshman had a 4.0 GPA (aka straight As) [0]. Education standards in CA at the high school level didn't change between 2012 and 2019, nor was there remote education. Even bottom tier UC admissions have become extremely competitive nowadays, and any parent or current student can attest to that. Most HNers seem to have finished HS around the early 2010s at the latest based on the kind of commentary I've seen on here, so I think they don't have experience with how much more impacted admissions in UCs have become since 2018-19. [0] - https://ir.ucr.edu/sites/default/files/2022-05/cds_2019-2020.pdf https://ir.ucr.edu/sites/default/files/2022-05/cds_2019-2020...
- Jensson 3y ago
  > The fact that the 75th percentile HS GPA at UCR in 2019 is 4.11 compared to it being in the mid 3s in 2012 implies that the student body has changed. Or it implies that grades are inflated, including the grades for AP classes. Not sure why you think that such grade inflation is impossible.

alephnerd 3y ago

> Why would grade inflation imply less need to take AP classes AP Classes act as a GPA and Admissions booster in UC admissions. The traditional scale is 0-4, but if you take AP Classes, your GPA can be modified to a 0-5 scale as long as you pass the exam and/or maintain at least a B average in the class. Anyone with a GPA >4.0 means they took at least 2-3 APs with an A-B average along with an A average in general classes. The fact that the 75th percentile HS GPA at UCR in 2019 is 4.11 compared to it being in the mid 3s in 2012 implies that the student body has changed. In 2010-13 you could get accepted in UCR without having ever taken an AP course - that doesn't happen anymore since 2019 onwards. Heck, in the 2019 freshman class 32% of incoming freshman had a 4.0 GPA (aka straight As) [0]. Education standards in CA at the high school level didn't change between 2012 and 2019, nor was there remote education. Even bottom tier UC admissions have become extremely competitive nowadays, and any parent or current student can attest to that. Most HNers seem to have finished HS around the early 2010s at the latest based on the kind of commentary I've seen on here, so I think they don't have experience with how much more impacted admissions in UCs have become since 2018-19. [0] - https://ir.ucr.edu/sites/default/files/2022-05/cds_2019-2020.pdf https://ir.ucr.edu/sites/default/files/2022-05/cds_2019-2020...

Jensson 3y ago
> The fact that the 75th percentile HS GPA at UCR in 2019 is 4.11 compared to it being in the mid 3s in 2012 implies that the student body has changed. Or it implies that grades are inflated, including the grades for AP classes. Not sure why you think that such grade inflation is impossible.