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> It's also the broadest system, with everything from drills and saws, to lights and fans, to soldering irons and dremel-like tools. A little over the top some

> It's also the broadest system, with everything from drills and saws, to lights and fans, to soldering irons and dremel-like tools. A little over the top sometimes, like do they really need 20 different cordless leaf blowers? Or is that just so they can brag about how many tools the ONE+ system has? Should I get a P21110? Or a P21140? Or maybe a RY40412VNM or PBLLB01K?

myself248 3y ago
Absolutely over-the-top. They need 2 of any given tool. But over time they introduce new ones, and so it doesn't bother me that there are a dozen different drills over the years. What does bother me, as you've pointed out, is that they'll introduce 20 years worth of different tools _all at the same time._ Like, no, just pick the good one and the cheap one and scrap the rest, please. I don't count that crap when I say broadest, though. I mean, there's a battery-powered pump which is great for draining or loading medium-sized vessels, where you don't want to suck-start a siphon or maybe gravity goes the wrong way. Milwaukee makes one too, but I don't think anyone else does -- there's a third-party one that takes Makita batteries and a different third-party one that takes DeWalt batteries, but that's it. Or there's a heatgun now, I think a few brands have those now too. There's hot-melt glue guns, only Ryobi has first-party, everyone else is using adapters and stuff. That's what I mean when I say broadest, there's just a ridiculous variety of stuff on those batteries, like the overlap of all other brands combined, and a lot of it is really useful. I can't count how many times a corded hot-glue gun launched itself into my lap because I snagged the cord while moving around, and that simply can't happen with the cordless one.
- wlesieutre 3y ago
  Yeah what I'm complaining about is more the "depth" of the product line than the breadth. I don't own anything toooo unusual, the weirdest is probably the hot glue gun that you mentioned. It's great as a cordless tool because the cord on a hot glue gun is always trying to tip it over and burn your arm or pull it off the table. And of course they do have two different hot glue guns. One where the battery locks into the handle, and one where the battery goes into a base station and the gun is a smaller unpowered piece that you pick up with some thermal mass to stay hot until it goes back on the base to heat up again.
- bombcar 3y ago
  The real one that made the red army annoyed (because Ryobi is kinda the same company) is that garage door opener - discontinued now, but the idea of a battery backup for your garage door is pretty cool: https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287177103 https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287177103 Nobody really cares about the Makita coffee maker or microwave or whatever, but Ryobi has some interesting things. Lowe's Kobalt had a kids drivable toy car that took their batteries, that was kind of nice. I just added an adapter to take M18 for my daughter's toy jeep, now it can flip itself over.
  - myself248 3y ago
    The garage door opener got T-boned by a patent lawsuit, didn't it? Otherwise everyone would have one by now.
bombcar 3y ago
The secret is those 20 different blowers are actually only 2 or so motors with different plastic around them; the plastic is the cheap part. People what think these companies are selling batteries; they're really just selling motors with different plastic.

myself248 3y ago

Absolutely over-the-top. They need 2 of any given tool. But over time they introduce new ones, and so it doesn't bother me that there are a dozen different drills over the years. What does bother me, as you've pointed out, is that they'll introduce 20 years worth of different tools _all at the same time._ Like, no, just pick the good one and the cheap one and scrap the rest, please. I don't count that crap when I say broadest, though. I mean, there's a battery-powered pump which is great for draining or loading medium-sized vessels, where you don't want to suck-start a siphon or maybe gravity goes the wrong way. Milwaukee makes one too, but I don't think anyone else does -- there's a third-party one that takes Makita batteries and a different third-party one that takes DeWalt batteries, but that's it. Or there's a heatgun now, I think a few brands have those now too. There's hot-melt glue guns, only Ryobi has first-party, everyone else is using adapters and stuff. That's what I mean when I say broadest, there's just a ridiculous variety of stuff on those batteries, like the overlap of all other brands combined, and a lot of it is really useful. I can't count how many times a corded hot-glue gun launched itself into my lap because I snagged the cord while moving around, and that simply can't happen with the cordless one.

wlesieutre 3y ago
Yeah what I'm complaining about is more the "depth" of the product line than the breadth. I don't own anything toooo unusual, the weirdest is probably the hot glue gun that you mentioned. It's great as a cordless tool because the cord on a hot glue gun is always trying to tip it over and burn your arm or pull it off the table. And of course they do have two different hot glue guns. One where the battery locks into the handle, and one where the battery goes into a base station and the gun is a smaller unpowered piece that you pick up with some thermal mass to stay hot until it goes back on the base to heat up again.
bombcar 3y ago
The real one that made the red army annoyed (because Ryobi is kinda the same company) is that garage door opener - discontinued now, but the idea of a battery backup for your garage door is pretty cool: https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287177103 https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287177103 Nobody really cares about the Makita coffee maker or microwave or whatever, but Ryobi has some interesting things. Lowe's Kobalt had a kids drivable toy car that took their batteries, that was kind of nice. I just added an adapter to take M18 for my daughter's toy jeep, now it can flip itself over.
- myself248 3y ago
  The garage door opener got T-boned by a patent lawsuit, didn't it? Otherwise everyone would have one by now.

bombcar 3y ago

The secret is those 20 different blowers are actually only 2 or so motors with different plastic around them; the plastic is the cheap part. People what think these companies are selling batteries; they're really just selling motors with different plastic.