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Man, Europe is really setting an example lately for how it's possible to roll out sensible technology regulations.

miohtama 3y ago
This decision was needed because the EU was about to ban end-to-end encryption. It’s not the EU commission, but a judge that ruled. AFAIK Commission can still ignore this.
- gpderetta 3y ago
  They in fact cannot.
  - moffkalast 3y ago
    Ursula on suicide watch.
- ko27 3y ago
  You have it the other way around. Majority of EU member countries wanted to to ban E2E, but the EU institutions prevented that.
  - dmichulke 3y ago
    No, the ECHR is not a EU institution, it's just European. The bad guys here are the commission and some EU member states.
    - 0dayz 3y ago
      Here's the actual position accord to the commission: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001661-ASW_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-00166...
      - miohtama 3y ago
        As it is Ylva Johansson, the hater of freedom of speech and the champion of scanning software companies, speaking in this document, here is her background: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...
- asyx 3y ago
  As far as I remember, the commission tried to introduce the chat control nonsense but the parliament shut it down.
Georgelemental 3y ago
Now if they could only do a good job developing the technology itself…
- IlikeMadison 3y ago
  they already do
  - pb7 3y ago
    Do they? Examples?
    - amarant 3y ago
      Spotify, King, DICE and Mojang are some commercial software successes. All from Sweden. If you don't think the entertainment industry counts for much, I might remind you Linux was originally made in Finland. (Linus Torvalds is half Swede half Finn iirc) That's just from the top of my head.
      - ganieldackle 3y ago
        Spotify was made up of 75% US employees since the moment it validated its value. DICE is a failed studio. Battlefield 2042 was one of the worst AAA video game launches of all time (with Cyberpunk 2077 by Polish studio CD Projekt Red being another) after a rocky Battlefield V launch and there is no reason to believe they will come back from it. King makes low quality micro-transaction-riddled games for addicts. Mojang -- OK.
        matsemann 3y ago
        Facebook is just scams and intervenes with elections. Google is just privacy hell that sells your data for ads. Amazon is in the business of abusing its workers. Point being, it was asked for success. Not if people like the company or not.

This decision was needed because the EU was about to ban end-to-end encryption. It’s not the EU commission, but a judge that ruled. AFAIK Commission can still ignore this.

gpderetta 3y ago
They in fact cannot.
- moffkalast 3y ago
  Ursula on suicide watch.
ko27 3y ago
You have it the other way around. Majority of EU member countries wanted to to ban E2E, but the EU institutions prevented that.
- dmichulke 3y ago
  No, the ECHR is not a EU institution, it's just European. The bad guys here are the commission and some EU member states.
  - 0dayz 3y ago
    Here's the actual position accord to the commission: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001661-ASW_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-00166...
    - miohtama 3y ago
      As it is Ylva Johansson, the hater of freedom of speech and the champion of scanning software companies, speaking in this document, here is her background: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...
asyx 3y ago
As far as I remember, the commission tried to introduce the chat control nonsense but the parliament shut it down.

Georgelemental 3y ago

Now if they could only do a good job developing the technology itself…

IlikeMadison 3y ago
they already do
- pb7 3y ago
  Do they? Examples?
  - amarant 3y ago
    Spotify, King, DICE and Mojang are some commercial software successes. All from Sweden. If you don't think the entertainment industry counts for much, I might remind you Linux was originally made in Finland. (Linus Torvalds is half Swede half Finn iirc) That's just from the top of my head.
    - ganieldackle 3y ago
      Spotify was made up of 75% US employees since the moment it validated its value. DICE is a failed studio. Battlefield 2042 was one of the worst AAA video game launches of all time (with Cyberpunk 2077 by Polish studio CD Projekt Red being another) after a rocky Battlefield V launch and there is no reason to believe they will come back from it. King makes low quality micro-transaction-riddled games for addicts. Mojang -- OK.
      - matsemann 3y ago
        Facebook is just scams and intervenes with elections. Google is just privacy hell that sells your data for ads. Amazon is in the business of abusing its workers. Point being, it was asked for success. Not if people like the company or not.