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> All EU people are welcome to move anywhere inside the EU. this is not true, it is still "freedom of movement (for workers)" the granny example is explicitly

> All EU people are welcome to move anywhere inside the EU. this is not true, it is still "freedom of movement (for workers)" the granny example is explicitly not permitted unless they have sufficient funds to support themselves without the target states' assistance (meaning independently wealthy) you can be deported otherwise

jefftk 3y ago
If you move somewhere to work at age 62 and then retire at 65, can you stay there? Do you have to become a citizen first? (Just curious; I know this is a tangent!)
- jmopp 3y ago
  Presumably you would have built up a pension in your previous country, which you can draw from. That would satisfy the requirement for an independent source of income. When Britain was in the EU it was (and still is) common for pensioners to live in Spain.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  You gain the right to permanent residence after 5 years of residence under the other conditions. The 65 year old would need to live from their pension for a couple more years.
- croemer 3y ago
  The comment you're responding to is wrong. Yes of course you can stay there, you can even move there post-retirement. You just can't get the very lowest level of benefits unless you've lived there for long enough.
croemer 3y ago
> the granny example is explicitly not permitted This is totally wrong. The granny can get her pension anywhere in the EU, no "independent wealth" required. There are some restrictions if you have no means to support yourself and require benefits, but the restrictions are definitely not as broad as "granny needs much money on her bank account" Read: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/eu-citizenship-and-democracy/free-movement-and-residence_en https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/ju... and links contained therein
- blibble 3y ago
  not all grannies are of pensionable age your linked page alludes to this, without details > In order to stay in another EU country for more than three months, EU citizens have to meet certain conditions depending on their status (for example worker, self-employed, student, etc.) and may be asked to comply with administrative formalities. if you follow the wizard on your page you get this: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-rights/index_en.htm#inactive-citizens-1 https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...

jefftk 3y ago

If you move somewhere to work at age 62 and then retire at 65, can you stay there? Do you have to become a citizen first? (Just curious; I know this is a tangent!)

jmopp 3y ago
Presumably you would have built up a pension in your previous country, which you can draw from. That would satisfy the requirement for an independent source of income. When Britain was in the EU it was (and still is) common for pensioners to live in Spain.
Symbiote 3y ago
You gain the right to permanent residence after 5 years of residence under the other conditions. The 65 year old would need to live from their pension for a couple more years.
croemer 3y ago
The comment you're responding to is wrong. Yes of course you can stay there, you can even move there post-retirement. You just can't get the very lowest level of benefits unless you've lived there for long enough.

croemer 3y ago

> the granny example is explicitly not permitted This is totally wrong. The granny can get her pension anywhere in the EU, no "independent wealth" required. There are some restrictions if you have no means to support yourself and require benefits, but the restrictions are definitely not as broad as "granny needs much money on her bank account" Read: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/eu-citizenship-and-democracy/free-movement-and-residence_en https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/ju... and links contained therein

blibble 3y ago
not all grannies are of pensionable age your linked page alludes to this, without details > In order to stay in another EU country for more than three months, EU citizens have to meet certain conditions depending on their status (for example worker, self-employed, student, etc.) and may be asked to comply with administrative formalities. if you follow the wizard on your page you get this: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-rights/index_en.htm#inactive-citizens-1 https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...