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Yep they have terrible reliability and support. Couldn’t deploy for 2 days once and they actually told me to use another company. Unmanaged dbs masquerading as

Yep they have terrible reliability and support. Couldn’t deploy for 2 days once and they actually told me to use another company. Unmanaged dbs masquerading as managed. Random downtime. I could go on but it’s not a production ready service and I moved off of it months ago.

biorach 3y ago
> Unmanaged dbs masquerading as managed Are you talking about fly postgres? Because I use it and feel they've been pretty clear that it's unmanaged.
- andy_ppp 3y ago
  Seriously! That's crazy. I need to setup terraform and move to AWS before launching I guess.
  - biorach 3y ago
    > Seriously! That's crazy huh? it does what it says on the tin. nothing crazy about it. They spell out for you in detail what they offer: https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/ https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should... And suggest external providers if you need managed postgres: https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/#recommended-external-providers https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should...
    - andy_ppp 3y ago
      I was shocked because I didn't realise it wasn't managed. Even Digital Ocean offer managed Postgres. If you are offering a service like Fly I think the database should be managed personally, the whole point of Fly.io is to provide abstractions to make production simpler. Do you think the type of user who is using fly.io is interested in or capable of managing their own Postgres database? I'd rather just trust RDS or another provider.
      - corobo 3y ago
        > Do you think the type of user who is using fly.io is interested in or capable of managing their own Postgres database? Honestly.. kinda, yeah At least I'm projecting my weird "I want to love you for some reason, Fly" plus my skillset onto anyone else that wants to love Fly too haha They feel very developer/nerd/HN/tinkerer targeted
      - chillfox 3y ago
        Yep, I never really trusted managed databases. It just feels like one of those things that's so important to your app that not having full control of it is weird.
benzible 3y ago
The header at the top of their Getting Started is "This Is Not Managed Postgres " [1] and they have a managed offering [2] in private beta now... > Supabase now offers their excellent managed Postgres service on Fly.io infrastructure. Provisioning Supabase via flyctl ensures secure, low-latency database access from applications hosted on Fly.io. [1] https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/ https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should... [2] https://fly.io/docs/reference/supabase/ https://fly.io/docs/reference/supabase/

biorach 3y ago

> Unmanaged dbs masquerading as managed Are you talking about fly postgres? Because I use it and feel they've been pretty clear that it's unmanaged.

andy_ppp 3y ago
Seriously! That's crazy. I need to setup terraform and move to AWS before launching I guess.
- biorach 3y ago
  > Seriously! That's crazy huh? it does what it says on the tin. nothing crazy about it. They spell out for you in detail what they offer: https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/ https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should... And suggest external providers if you need managed postgres: https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/#recommended-external-providers https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should...
  - andy_ppp 3y ago
    I was shocked because I didn't realise it wasn't managed. Even Digital Ocean offer managed Postgres. If you are offering a service like Fly I think the database should be managed personally, the whole point of Fly.io is to provide abstractions to make production simpler. Do you think the type of user who is using fly.io is interested in or capable of managing their own Postgres database? I'd rather just trust RDS or another provider.
    - corobo 3y ago
      > Do you think the type of user who is using fly.io is interested in or capable of managing their own Postgres database? Honestly.. kinda, yeah At least I'm projecting my weird "I want to love you for some reason, Fly" plus my skillset onto anyone else that wants to love Fly too haha They feel very developer/nerd/HN/tinkerer targeted
    - chillfox 3y ago
      Yep, I never really trusted managed databases. It just feels like one of those things that's so important to your app that not having full control of it is weird.

benzible 3y ago

The header at the top of their Getting Started is "This Is Not Managed Postgres " [1] and they have a managed offering [2] in private beta now... > Supabase now offers their excellent managed Postgres service on Fly.io infrastructure. Provisioning Supabase via flyctl ensures secure, low-latency database access from applications hosted on Fly.io. [1] https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should-know/ https://fly.io/docs/postgres/getting-started/what-you-should... [2] https://fly.io/docs/reference/supabase/ https://fly.io/docs/reference/supabase/