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Python has a `cgi` module that does most of the superglobal stuff for you. But, er. Does this really matter? Yes, you can get "hello world" in PHP with one l
by eevee 14y ago
Python has a `cgi` module that does most of the superglobal stuff for you.
But, er. Does this really matter? Yes, you can get "hello world" in PHP with one line of not-PHP. You can also get "hello world" in Python + Flask with seven lines, and you'll get half a dozen extremely nice features for free that you can learn about as you go.
Arguing about what stack has the simplest way to build from total scratch is a sad race to the bottom. I'd rather be making the point that rich Web development can be easy, not that cobble-your-own-thing-together-with-duct-tape can be easy.
- mjschultz 14y agoThe first poster in this thread made the statement: "If I need a quick dynamic page on my server, it's much easier to do this in PHP than in Python or Ruby." So yes, it really does matter in the context of this thread. On the whole I agree with your philosophy that frameworks are there for a reason: you get many features for almost nothing. But sometimes you just don't need a framework, you need something quick-and-dirty that just works.
- eevee 14y agoBut even something quick and dirty is longer than "hello world". I've written a couple pretty dinky things with Flask, and the minuscule overhead of typing `import Flask` was definitely worth having e.g. a solid template language and XSS protection ready to go.