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Mostly from cars, because paying Billy to tell you where his truck will be parked tomorrow night is how you buy a gun from Billy without a background check. No

Mostly from cars, because paying Billy to tell you where his truck will be parked tomorrow night is how you buy a gun from Billy without a background check. Not saying this is right; just saying this isn't "theft" but rather a different law being broken. 2. The vast majority of houses with guns aren't keeping them locked up in safes. This is false. Source or gtfo.

dmoy 3y ago
> Source 22% in a safe https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/personal-firearm-storage.html https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/per... > The 2016 survey found that 46 percent of gun owners stored all household guns locked, of whom 22 percent stored them in a gun safe or cabinet, 13 percent in a gun rack, 6 percent in a locked gun case, and 5 percent in another locked location Cabinet = crowbar opens in seconds Rack = easier than a cabinet > Mostly from cars It's like 50% from cars, yes. Still well over 100k stolen from houses
- beaeglebeached 3y ago
  Curious how stat considers if gun is stored on person instead of safe. Also the reason why people end up with guns in cars is often because of dumbass laws like forcing you to abandon the weapon before going into a liquor licensed restaurant, park, daycare, post office, etc. Theyd rather the gun get stolen and carried by a crim than a licensed carrier walk into the post office. Removing carry restrictions I think would significantly lower accounts of unsecured (car) storage. Only takes one time of going into post office or picking up your kid at daycare and now you're tossed into stats of someone who doesnt keep all guns secured at the home safe.
  - dmoy 3y ago
    > Curious how stat considers if gun is stored on person instead of safe. No idea, I'd guess it doesn't get included in the numerator or denominator > Also the reason why people end up with guns in cars is often because of dumbass laws like forcing you to abandon the weapon before going into a liquor licensed restaurant, park, daycare, post office, etc. Theyd rather the gun get stolen and carried by a crim than a licensed carrier walk into the post office. Yes I think this is pretty much correct.

dmoy 3y ago

> Source 22% in a safe https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/personal-firearm-storage.html https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/per... > The 2016 survey found that 46 percent of gun owners stored all household guns locked, of whom 22 percent stored them in a gun safe or cabinet, 13 percent in a gun rack, 6 percent in a locked gun case, and 5 percent in another locked location Cabinet = crowbar opens in seconds Rack = easier than a cabinet > Mostly from cars It's like 50% from cars, yes. Still well over 100k stolen from houses

beaeglebeached 3y ago
Curious how stat considers if gun is stored on person instead of safe. Also the reason why people end up with guns in cars is often because of dumbass laws like forcing you to abandon the weapon before going into a liquor licensed restaurant, park, daycare, post office, etc. Theyd rather the gun get stolen and carried by a crim than a licensed carrier walk into the post office. Removing carry restrictions I think would significantly lower accounts of unsecured (car) storage. Only takes one time of going into post office or picking up your kid at daycare and now you're tossed into stats of someone who doesnt keep all guns secured at the home safe.
- dmoy 3y ago
  > Curious how stat considers if gun is stored on person instead of safe. No idea, I'd guess it doesn't get included in the numerator or denominator > Also the reason why people end up with guns in cars is often because of dumbass laws like forcing you to abandon the weapon before going into a liquor licensed restaurant, park, daycare, post office, etc. Theyd rather the gun get stolen and carried by a crim than a licensed carrier walk into the post office. Yes I think this is pretty much correct.