> what data do you need to determine how much more unsafe Teslas are compared to humans? Tesla should start by first reporting disengagement data to CA DMV lik

> what data do you need to determine how much more unsafe Teslas are compared to humans? Tesla should start by first reporting disengagement data to CA DMV like every other self driving company. It shows FSD's rate of progress. Then they should take all their crashes, normalize for different factors I mentioned earlier and then make a comparison. See how Waymo does it: https://waymo.com/blog/2023/12/waymo-significantly-outperforms-comparable-human-benchmarks-over-7-million/ https://waymo.com/blog/2023/12/waymo-significantly-outperfor.... They have multiple white papers on their methodology. Go through it, if you're interested to see what apples-to-apples comparison looks like. > Why hasn't anyone else, or you, directly published conflicting data to show that it's less safe? Because Tesla redacts every single reported crash to point that it's useless. Is FSD enabled or Autopilot? Not reported. FSD version? Redacted. Injury? Unknown. Description? Redacted. Good luck trying to glean any information from it. This is by design to prevent independent analysis of their performance. Be transparent like everyone else. You know it's fishy when they're actively trying to hide things.