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You know as well as everyone else does that PWA’s require the browser to be able to integrate with the platform at the level of the OS which would break iOS’s s

by kj99 3y ago

You know as well as everyone else does that PWA’s require the browser to be able to integrate with the platform at the level of the OS which would break iOS’s security model. You might want the EU to force iOS to be an open platform, but I don’t think that was their intent when they made the requirement to allow alternate browsers.

veeti 3y ago
> which would break iOS’s security model And how is that exactly? Can you please elaborate? It's all so familiar: just a year ago Apple would have had us believe that "You know as well as everyone else does that third party browser engines must integrate with the platform at the level of the OS which would break iOS’s security model." Well, that obviously wasn't true, but there's still sheeple who will take the bait again and again :-)
- kj99 3y ago
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  - veeti 3y ago
    So you're just talking out your ass then.
    - kj99 3y ago
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      - veeti 3y ago
        Okay, enjoy fellating the $2.8 trillion company online for virtual points, I'm sure they will throw you a free MacBook at some point.
        kj99 3y ago
        I think you’ve made my point quite nicely.
        veeti 3y ago
        We're all waiting for your technical arguments on the point, but it doesn't sound like you are actually interested in having a conversation that could be called intellectual in some way.
        kj99 3y ago
        Do you expect me to take you seriously after your last few comments? Who in their right mind would have a technical discussion with you?
commoner 3y ago
Preventing other browsers from implementing PWAs does not improve security in iOS. This is a self-serving restriction intended to discourage users from switching away from Safari.
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- kj99 3y ago
  How exactly does it discourage users from switching away from safari?
  - commoner 3y ago
    With these changes, Safari is the only browser allowed by Apple to implement PWAs on iOS, which gives Safari an advantage over the other browsers that are not allowed to implement PWAs on iOS. Anyone who uses PWAs on iOS must do so via Safari. PWA users who prefer a non-Safari browser on iOS must switch between their preferred browser and Safari for their web browsing needs. The additional burden of maintaining two web browsers discourages these users from switching away from Safari, and the entire setup prevents these users from leaving Safari completely.
    - kj99 3y ago
      That’s not what’s happening here. PWA’s are disabled altogether in the EU to avoid exactly this favoritism.
      - commoner 3y ago
        According to the article, the latest iOS beta prevents non-Safari browsers from adding PWA icons to the home screen. These changes retain iOS's favoritism of Safari.
        kj99 3y ago
        Not just non-safari browsers.
alberto180 3y ago
They worked just fine until now. Also PWA's are sandboxed in the Browser, and Apple still reviews every App, even the 3rd Party ones

by kj99 3y ago

veeti 3y ago

> which would break iOS’s security model And how is that exactly? Can you please elaborate? It's all so familiar: just a year ago Apple would have had us believe that "You know as well as everyone else does that third party browser engines must integrate with the platform at the level of the OS which would break iOS’s security model." Well, that obviously wasn't true, but there's still sheeple who will take the bait again and again :-)

kj99 3y ago
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- veeti 3y ago
  So you're just talking out your ass then.
  - kj99 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - veeti 3y ago
      Okay, enjoy fellating the $2.8 trillion company online for virtual points, I'm sure they will throw you a free MacBook at some point.
      - kj99 3y ago
        I think you’ve made my point quite nicely.
        veeti 3y ago
        We're all waiting for your technical arguments on the point, but it doesn't sound like you are actually interested in having a conversation that could be called intellectual in some way.
        kj99 3y ago
        Do you expect me to take you seriously after your last few comments? Who in their right mind would have a technical discussion with you?

commoner 3y ago

Preventing other browsers from implementing PWAs does not improve security in iOS. This is a self-serving restriction intended to discourage users from switching away from Safari.

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kj99 3y ago
How exactly does it discourage users from switching away from safari?
- commoner 3y ago
  With these changes, Safari is the only browser allowed by Apple to implement PWAs on iOS, which gives Safari an advantage over the other browsers that are not allowed to implement PWAs on iOS. Anyone who uses PWAs on iOS must do so via Safari. PWA users who prefer a non-Safari browser on iOS must switch between their preferred browser and Safari for their web browsing needs. The additional burden of maintaining two web browsers discourages these users from switching away from Safari, and the entire setup prevents these users from leaving Safari completely.
  - kj99 3y ago
    That’s not what’s happening here. PWA’s are disabled altogether in the EU to avoid exactly this favoritism.
    - commoner 3y ago
      According to the article, the latest iOS beta prevents non-Safari browsers from adding PWA icons to the home screen. These changes retain iOS's favoritism of Safari.
      - kj99 3y ago
        Not just non-safari browsers.

alberto180 3y ago

They worked just fine until now. Also PWA's are sandboxed in the Browser, and Apple still reviews every App, even the 3rd Party ones