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"AI" Well, the company is fucked. I wonder who will pick up the pieces of the browser tech. There are two pieces of tech that AI might apply to: 1) Semantic

"AI" Well, the company is fucked. I wonder who will pick up the pieces of the browser tech. There are two pieces of tech that AI might apply to: 1) Semantic ad-blocking (this will fuck up their only source of reliable revenue so it won't happen) 2) content filtering for a child-friendly mode. This actually is a good idea, but it won't happen because it'll be easily repurposed to perform bullet point #1.

creatonez 3y ago
None of the above. Mozilla is currently working on... chatbots.
russelg 3y ago
Firefox is already using AI (fully local) for their new translation feature.
- breather 3y ago
  A) I don't think that's the type of feature to which they are referring to, B) I wouldn't call that "AI" by the current sense of the word when it can be narrowly described with "automated translation", and C) we've had high-quality translation for well over a decade now with or without Firefox.
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    Firefox's translation is based on LLMs not far off from the AI chatbots in the core tech. It's also nicely local to your machine.
    - DaSHacka 3y ago
      I wasn't aware of that, thats actually pretty cool! Gotta one of the first legitimate uses for AI outside of generating semi-passable scripts and email templates.
    - breather 3y ago
      That's all very nice, but it doesn't change anything i said.
sjwhevvvvvsj 3y ago
#2 is just a document classification task, you can do it with DistilBERT.
- breather 3y ago
  > #2 is just a document classification task, you can do it with DistilBERT. I'm assuming there's still an immense amount of effort into ensuring quality and then packaging and distributing it, especially if you're selling as for children, especially if you want it to work on a phone without sending the browsing data to a third party.
  - sjwhevvvvvsj 3y ago
    Yup, and that’s the thing with the LLM craze - it’s super energy intensive and for the most difficult problems you still need really good hand curated data anyway. My point is more “we know how to do this already and it’s just a hard problem”.

creatonez 3y ago

None of the above. Mozilla is currently working on... chatbots.

russelg 3y ago

Firefox is already using AI (fully local) for their new translation feature.

breather 3y ago
A) I don't think that's the type of feature to which they are referring to, B) I wouldn't call that "AI" by the current sense of the word when it can be narrowly described with "automated translation", and C) we've had high-quality translation for well over a decade now with or without Firefox.
- asadotzler 3y ago
  Firefox's translation is based on LLMs not far off from the AI chatbots in the core tech. It's also nicely local to your machine.
  - DaSHacka 3y ago
    I wasn't aware of that, thats actually pretty cool! Gotta one of the first legitimate uses for AI outside of generating semi-passable scripts and email templates.
  - breather 3y ago
    That's all very nice, but it doesn't change anything i said.

sjwhevvvvvsj 3y ago

#2 is just a document classification task, you can do it with DistilBERT.

breather 3y ago
> #2 is just a document classification task, you can do it with DistilBERT. I'm assuming there's still an immense amount of effort into ensuring quality and then packaging and distributing it, especially if you're selling as for children, especially if you want it to work on a phone without sending the browsing data to a third party.
- sjwhevvvvvsj 3y ago
  Yup, and that’s the thing with the LLM craze - it’s super energy intensive and for the most difficult problems you still need really good hand curated data anyway. My point is more “we know how to do this already and it’s just a hard problem”.