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> Keypad UIs are hard to create - and competitors certainly had some toxically useless UIs. I still think that the wheel (navi-roller) they introduced with 771

> Keypad UIs are hard to create - and competitors certainly had some toxically useless UIs. I still think that the wheel (navi-roller) they introduced with 7710 [1] was revolutionary and they should have used it in other phones they made. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7110 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7110

bloopernova 3y ago
I would really like something like that navi-roller below my spacebars on my keyboard, to use as a way to select from drop-downs and push to enter. Unfortunately keyboard navigation of graphical elements is really lacking these days.
- mjcohen 3y ago
  A google search for "keyboard with roller" brings up a lot of options.
  - bloopernova 3y ago
    I didn't phrase it very well, sorry about that. I meant that display managers, UI toolkits, and browsers don't support the keyboard as much as I'd like.
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      But still, adding a mouse-contraption below your keyboard could make it feel like you're using the keyboard to run it while your computer recieves your input as mouse signals, so you'll both be happy. (Some brand names to search for are Rollermouse, Mousetrapper, Optapad, andErgoslider.)
- int_19h 3y ago
  Some Symbian PDAs had a similar scroll wheel on the side, similar to the volume rocker, but more versatile.
sundvor 3y ago
I had that phone; such a great design of simplicity and function.
trm42 3y ago
It was super nice to use at the time but it was also completely unsealed against weather so if a bit of snow or water got beneath the wheel, you would get unusable phone quite fast. Happened to mine even though I was super careful, luckily bought it used super cheap. It was also too expensive just because it has WAP and nothing otherwise spectacular.
fractallyte 3y ago
Interesting... I had a Sony Vaio C1VE laptop, made around the same time, with a similar "jogdial" on the side. It was an extremely cool input device, particularly for navigation.

bloopernova 3y ago

I would really like something like that navi-roller below my spacebars on my keyboard, to use as a way to select from drop-downs and push to enter. Unfortunately keyboard navigation of graphical elements is really lacking these days.

mjcohen 3y ago
A google search for "keyboard with roller" brings up a lot of options.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  I didn't phrase it very well, sorry about that. I meant that display managers, UI toolkits, and browsers don't support the keyboard as much as I'd like.
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    But still, adding a mouse-contraption below your keyboard could make it feel like you're using the keyboard to run it while your computer recieves your input as mouse signals, so you'll both be happy. (Some brand names to search for are Rollermouse, Mousetrapper, Optapad, andErgoslider.)
int_19h 3y ago
Some Symbian PDAs had a similar scroll wheel on the side, similar to the volume rocker, but more versatile.

sundvor 3y ago

I had that phone; such a great design of simplicity and function.

trm42 3y ago

It was super nice to use at the time but it was also completely unsealed against weather so if a bit of snow or water got beneath the wheel, you would get unusable phone quite fast. Happened to mine even though I was super careful, luckily bought it used super cheap. It was also too expensive just because it has WAP and nothing otherwise spectacular.

fractallyte 3y ago

Interesting... I had a Sony Vaio C1VE laptop, made around the same time, with a similar "jogdial" on the side. It was an extremely cool input device, particularly for navigation.